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[–] Raab -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You mean like manipulating humans into believing they are helpless animals that need to be brought in, and taken care of?

The specific kind of psychological manipulation in this case used by cats over millennia, by definition of the word, is gaslighting lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Thankfully it's the year 2024 so if you literally spent 5 seconds doing a search you would find a real definition

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that hinges on creating self-doubt. “I think of gaslighting as trying to associate someone with the label ‘crazy,’” says Paige Sweet, Ph.D., an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Michigan who studies gaslighting in relationships and in the workplace. “It’s making someone seem or feel unstable, irrational and not credible, making them feel like what they’re seeing or experiencing isn’t real, that they’re making it up, that no one else will believe them.”

Cats cannot do this.

I don't want to be the person that brings a real definition into a fun thread, but your complete lack of logical, sane thought on the subject drove me to it. This is your fault.

[–] Raab -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Did you even read your quote? A subjective stance from an assistant professor of sociology who studies gaslighting IN RELATIONSHIPS AND THE WORKPLACE. That's a severe lack of a "real definition" my guy. Go watch the 1944 film Gaslight from which the term was coined.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Webster

psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator

Can you spot the difference? I cannot. And cats still can't do this.

Also, it was coined in a play before that.

Again, it's 2024, this is easy shit.

[–] Raab -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Manipulation of the perception of reality is where my argument comes from. Your rude ass tone and pretentiousness are unwelcome. Have a good one boss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Do you seriously not get I was messing with you? I literally exhibited the behavior described as gaslighting in the same message where I pasted the definition. I tried to be as obvious as possible and apparently even that wasn't enough.

Or are you just butthurt about the parts where you didn't bother to search?

[–] PapaStevesy 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry you were wrong and it hurt your feelings, but you're clearly the rude one in this thread. Not sure what the color of their ass has to do with any of this though...

[–] Raab -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I kept it light and friendly, you came in quoting subjective opinions and are trying to tell me based on that, I am objectively wrong. How fitting for the topic of discussion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Two different people. Again, it's 2024. This isn't hard, boss.

[–] PapaStevesy 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, you're objectively wrong based on the evidence put forth by both parties, maybe bring some of your own if you want to make a convincing argument.

[–] Raab 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol buddy, you're lost. It was an open ended thought that it could be perceived as gaslighting, by definition, of manipulating humans perception of reality that they must take care of the cats, simply because the cat presented itself that way. Get the 10 ft pole out of your booty cheeks, and lighten up. I've presented my argument and take on the subject, and that's where I'll let it lie, as you are incapable of lighthearted discussion.

[–] PapaStevesy 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What do you mean? I made a very lighthearted joke about your poor punctuation, you probably just didn't get it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I thought it was great. Although ass tone could also be that he was complementary towards my leg day efforts. 🥰🍑

Sadly, he decided you were me and just continued being pissy at me except me was you :'(

[–] Raab 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was so awful, I refused to acknowledge it. Merry Christmas friend :)

[–] PapaStevesy 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I knew you wouldn't get it...

[–] Raab 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your joke was not that high-brow. Your pretentiousness is showing again.

[–] PapaStevesy 1 points 3 days ago

Of course it wasn't high-brow, it was about a butt lololol

[–] PapaStevesy 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, because words used in modern context are always best defined by their most archaic usage 🙄🙄🙄

[–] Raab 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To that point, words used in modern context are also up for interpretation and free thought. :)

[–] PapaStevesy 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All words are up for interpretation, that's what language is. You just haven't made a real argument for how you're deciding to interpret "gaslighting."

[–] Raab 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See: above thread. See you at the circus

[–] PapaStevesy 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the above thread, I see one person making an argument based on research they did, citing academic definitions and I see one person making an argument based on feelings and then abandoning it for ad hominem attacks as soon as they figured out they were incorrect. Guess which one you are?

[–] Raab 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ohhh you are referencing the opinion of the assistant professor who studies based on a targeted audience? You got me there!

[–] PapaStevesy 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See, if you put as much work into building your own argument as you do into trying to dismantle the other person's, you might actually make a point. Wouldn't want that though, better continue to tear people down and revel in your own ignorance 🤷‍♂️ Happy Hanukkah!

[–] Raab 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've presented my point clearly, and feel no need to present it to you individually. Merry Christmas!

[–] PapaStevesy 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And obviously I disagree and feel the desire to tell you. You're also waaaay more rude and pretentious than that other person, though me maybe not lol

[–] Raab 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I disagree, and that means you're objectively wrong :)

[–] PapaStevesy 1 points 3 days ago

You're right, you are more pretentious than me 😘