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[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (17 children)

When a person or entity is responsible for the untimely deaths of literally thousands of American citizens, the question should be whether or not this was a justifiable homicide. Is a police officer put on trial for shooting and killing a gunman mowing down children at a school? Why is this case different?

[–] tlou3please 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment but legally speaking that's a completely different situation. The main difference is the immediacy and nature of anticipated harm.

Again, not challenging your take on it, just highlighting that the law doesn't see it that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was immediate; that CEO was killing people every day.

[–] tlou3please 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Again, I appreciate the sentiment but that's not really what 'immediate' means in this context.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If I was a juror I wouldn't buy that for a second. That CEO was actively killing people.

[–] tlou3please 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Again, not disagreeing with the sentiment, but legally he WASN'T actively killing people. Nobody was in any immediate danger. That means physically and temporally immediate. That means the defences and laws that are relevant are entirely different. That's just how it works and how the law is set up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sure but the law includes interpretation by jurors too, and in reality he was an immediate threat. I'm not going to put a man in prison because of a definition that's clearly wrong.

[–] tlou3please 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The jurors have discretion, yes, but that doesn't kick in at the jury vetting stage. Again, I get the sentiment, but that's just the way it works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry if I implied that jurors interpreting the law "kicks in" during jury vetting. I'm not actually sure what that means.

[–] tlou3please 2 points 2 hours ago

I mean it's true that jury nullification is a thing, but that relates to decisions made in the jury room. Jury vetting is a completely separate matter that takes place before the trial starts proper.

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