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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy asserted that no world leader has the right to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin on behalf of Ukraine.

Speaking to Le Parisien readers, Zelenskyy emphasized that Ukraine alone determines its future and any dialogue with Russia must follow a peace plan based on strength and international support.

He warned against negotiating without clear guarantees of security, highlighting the risks of Putin resuming aggression after a ceasefire.

Zelenskyy called for a strategy ensuring Ukraine's long-term stability and security, beyond NATO or EU membership timelines.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 days ago (36 children)

You'd think this would be a fairly cut and dry issue - the countries helping Ukraine wouldn't like it either if another country started negotiating terms on their behalf (especially not with a monster like Putin).

Ukraine and its people should be the ones to decide their own fate.

I swear people who think otherwise must've read David vs. Goliath and sided with the Goliath.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (10 children)

must’ve read David vs. Goliath and sided with the Goliath.

Bold of you to assume that they can read, or that they have read the Bible.

In my experience not even "devout Christians" do that last one.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 17 points 3 days ago (8 children)

easiest way to become an atheist is to read scripture.

[–] ouch 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Alright, that didn't work. What's next?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I dunno, if you believe in a global flood and the tower of babel I'm not sure I can help

[–] ouch 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I'm not qualified enough to make educated guesses what type of texts those are. As in, are they written in a form that insinuates to be literal stories. The teachings of those stories are pretty understandable, though.

Some say that the oldest stories are reverse prophecies. And we know how accurate prophecies are considered in general.

The Bible is not a science book, but one of relationship between God and man.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's interesting that that relationship changes, isn't it? Like, early on God is the sort of deity to turn you into salt or flood the world if He's displeased. And over time, He does that sort of spiteful intervention less and less. It's hard not to see it as Him getting wiser and more compassionate. But... if He's all powerful and all knowing to begin with, why does His approach to people change?

[–] ouch 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not only interesting, it's difficult to understand, and Old Testament contains a lot of stuff that makes you doubt. But if you look at it from a theological view, God's judgement does not disappear anywhere in New Testament. It's just diverted into one person: his own son, who he abandons to be crucified, even though he is innocent.

Christianity is really a horrifying religion. The core of it is disgusting and offensive.

But it doesn't end there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't say I disagree. The tendency to outright dismiss christianity online is understandable, but a little frustrating. Even with that horrifying core, a lot of people find solace in it. For many, it's the only semblence of community that's lasted into the 21st century.

On another level, it's just plain interesting the sorts of stories people felt needed to be preserved. It speaks to how they lived and what they valued. A lot has changed, and a lot hasn't. That kind of narrative window into the past is valuable, and I'm glad I grew up with it, even if I don't consider myself Christian anymore.

[–] ouch 2 points 8 hours ago

The stories in the Bible are kind of comforting, in a way. It's basically a chain of generations after generations fucking everything up and doing every horrible thing mankind does. Yet through all that the message is that God is always the same and always waiting for his people to stop running away from him.

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