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A school in Rösrath, Germany, temporarily closed after two children from the same family tested positive for the mpox clade 1b variant.

The children, who attend a special needs school, contracted the virus from a family member who recently traveled to Africa.

All infected family members are in quarantine, and online lessons will run until Friday as a precaution.

The Robert Koch Institute confirmed the virus poses low contagion risk, requiring close physical contact for transmission. The infections are mild, and no additional cases or deaths have been reported in Germany.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

the guidelines say protections last at least 12 months,

yes.

after which you should still get a fresh-up.

No.

If they had data showing that base immunity has a drop-off, by date, effectiveness etc, that would warrant fresh-ups they would say, in very plain words, that you should get a fresh-up.

But they don't:

Deshalb empfiehlt die STIKO für besonders gefährdete Personengruppen eine jährliche Auffrischimpfung, die im Herbst verabreicht werden soll.

For endangered groups. Not the general population. They know, for sure, that it lasts at least 12 months, but they might have good reason to believe that it lasts indefinitely, that the drop-off is not worth the risk for the general population, or some such. Ask a specialist. I'm not one, but I can read, without turning to all caps. Maybe you should read the whole thing with a cooler head.

[–] 9bananas 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

so you admit you have no idea, and then make a definitive statement to NOT get vaccinated.

you do see the hypocrisy here, right?

and "at least" means they do not know what happens after, presumably because data is not yet available.

given that they very clearly state that getting fresh-ups does help, the reasonable assumption is to get the vaccine just in case.

not the other way around, like you did.

you are spreading misinformation, if you say not to get the vaccine, just because you assume that it has downsides.

to use your own argument: IF fresh-ups had negative effects, they would say so in plain words.

they don't do that, which shows nicely how dumb of an argument that is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 hours ago

so you admit you have no idea, and then make a definitive statement to NOT get vaccinated.

I admitted that I have no idea about the epidemiological details, then made a definite statement about what the STIKO said. Which I did by quoting them, verbatim.

to use your own argument: IF fresh-ups had negative effects, they would say so in plain words.

It is not the job of the STIKO to not recommend vaccinations. They either recommend or don't recommend, but they never recommend not to, that's the job of your doctor, comparing your medical state/history against counterindications.