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I see you are not fond of citing sources that can be verified. I don’t have such misgivings:
The Spy War: How the C.I.A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin
That’s a lot of cookies 🍪 and Fremdschämen
No doubt Putin and Russia were meddling in Ukraine before 2014; but let’s not pretend NATO and the U.S. did not influence the situation.
Those phone calls, as I already mentioned, did not reveal a secret CIA partnership with Ukraine. They revealed the US was not up to date on what was happening at the time and that they were in the beginning stages of figuring out what to do in Ukraine. Russian propaganda claims otherwise but there's never been any evidence of that.
The CIA building a bunker to run ops from makes sense since Putin immediately invaded Crimea and sparked the Donbas war. That was built well after the revolution had already taken place. It is not evidence of meddling before or during the revolution.
Here it is: https://www.democracynow.org/2014/3/3/who_is_provoking_the_unrest_in
Taken from Wikipedia: "Russian propaganda" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity#:~:text=%5B337%5D-,Russian%20propaganda,-Russian%20propaganda%20portrayed
It's really not that difficult to find. At this point you're just spewing nonsense. Time for a block.
Nonsense? Is the National Endowment for Democracy’s role after the Orange Revolution and before the Euromaidan nonsense?
Oh look, actual Nazis.
Sorry I irritated your cognitive dissonance. Best of luck 🤞