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I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).

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[–] TokenBoomer -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Random blogger tweets unsourced claims. More at eleven. Also completely unrelated.

Still not seeing how any of this suggests there's anything remotely close to a justification of Putins invasion of Ukraine.

[–] TokenBoomer -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I fail to see how any of this relates to someone being called a Nazi apologist. You’ve created a straw man that I support Putin’s invasion (even though I stated that I am opposed). Adults with higher level critical thinking understand that one can be opposed to Putin and Russian imperialism, while also being opposed to NATO and western imperialism. Even with my limited IQ of 142, I can avoid the binary fallacy that if Dugin inspired Russian imperialists are the bad guys, then, by default, Ukraine and their western imperialist NATO supporters must be the good guys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You started with the claim that Putin was somehow "provoked" into committing mass rape and murder on an innocent civilian population. That's an imperialist/fascist talking point, literally used by the Nazis back when Hitler invaded Poland.

At no point have I claimed you support the invasion (that's a strawman you just made up), only that you made excuses for it. Hence why you were called a Nazi apologist.

Even with my limited IQ of 142

Ah, that explains it. You must have at least 160 IQ in order to understand that making excuses for Putins invasion is morally indefensible.

Also, pretending both-sidesism is somehow enlightened is hilarious. In this conflict, it's pretty fucking clear who is on the moral highground, ulterior motives be damned. Putin sent in a military that rapes and murders innocent civilians, NATO has provided weapons to the Ukrainian military to prevent that. Even if you believe NATO has a secret master plan to topple Putin or whatever, defending an innocent civilian population is a good thing regardless of any geopolitical reasoning involved.

[–] TokenBoomer 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I cited the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, to demonstrate that it’s not just the pejorative “tankies” to make the assertion:

The U.S. and NATO Helped Trigger the Ukraine War. It’s Not ‘Siding With Putin’ to Admit It.

Some of us are more concerned with human lives than preserving imaginary lines drawn a map.