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I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E 31 points 1 week ago (26 children)

I don't even know what they (western tankies) get from this. Average dumbass Russian only cares about his ass, and the pretended "glory". There is no "Conservative brotherhood which spans across the ocean". They don't speak your language, they don't have the same problem, and they hate YOU with passion, because on average, they are racist and dumb.

So my only hypothesis is that tankies think (??) that by going "contrarian" they show how smart they are, and that "did the research" lol.

[–] glassware -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not a tankie, but I probably am what everyone in this thread is calling a "tankie", so here's my answer:

Yes, it is extremely bad that Russia invaded Ukraine. The ideal scenario would have been Ukraine quickly repelling the invasion when it happened. But we don't live in magic fantasy world where everyone gets what they deserve. We live in the real world, where Ukraine cannot possibly defeat Russia in a war. The option which saves the most Ukrainian lives is a negotiated peace, with Russia getting much more of what they want than we would like.

All that is achieved by pouring more weapons into Ukraine is prolonging the meatgrinder for years, wiping out an entire generation of Ukrainians and risking a global nuclear war.

[–] lurklurk 7 points 1 week ago

Ukraine had a negotiated peace before the 2022 invasion, after the 2014 invasion. Why would a 2025 negotiated peace be any more reliable?

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