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I don’t see the issue, most people at work know they are being watched. Clearly y’all have never had an item stolen by a driver before.
The problem is not the camera, the problem is that amazon is not doing much to preserve the privacy if its employees from these leaks
Actually, I do have a problem with the camera.
And we know that how?
Amazon is a very very large company, completely sealing up something like that would be next to impossible.
Note this doesn’t meant they shouldn’t try, only that I personally recognize the scope of the issue at hand.
Hopefully they find the source of these leaks soon though and patch up their privacy better for the drivers sake, but it’s very likely it’s just another Amazon worker leaking these.
Are you shitting me?
This driver is clearly identifiable. You pull up their manager's information... Look for a Joey (name mentioned in the video) and then interview them. They will give up the three other names or you fire Joey. Then you can punish all 4 of the people who partook in this data leak.
This is NOT "next to impossible". Not even close. Access records could easily be stored in relation to these videos. Information on who's reviewing the videos is trivial to store as metadata.
~~The data leaks aren’t coming from the drivers…so I’m not sure how interviewing the victims who likely don’t even know it’s leaked, would help.~~
I misunderstood the source of the leaks, it was a guy holding his phone at a screen.
Did I say to interview the victim?
The people talking in the video are the knuckleheads that were taking the recording.
Yep, my mistake I misunderstood the people talking in the article were workers filming it on a phone. That should be a lot easier to find, but does nothing to disprove that stopping stuff like a single dude sneaking a phone to work gets harder with the amount of dudes you employ.
We know that because we're watching these videos online even though we don't work for Amazon. The proof is in the pudding.
I don't think that a driver facing camera increases the safety of package delivery whatsoever. All it can detect is whether a delivery person is driving, perhaps how they are driving and that's it.
A delivery person can exit the car, take a package of (potential) value out and do whatever. You can still be caught taking the package away from the customer if you do not take it to the customers door first and then not announce yourself. Or make a photo to "confirm" that the package made it to the door.
Well agree to disagree then, you’re under the clock it’s pretty normal to be monitored for a variety of reasons.
Hate me if you want, and I agree with the issue with the leaks themselves, but being watched at work isn’t some dystopian nightmare.
It doesn't feel dystopian because it's basically normalized as your comment shows. Being watched at work permanently through camera supervision specifically. Being watched at work on occasion or your work being checked is indeed normal.
Ferris has told me via DM that the cameras do not film permanently but instead start recording footage when the car is jerking around because that could result in broken packages and Amazon is trying to cover their ass. However this system could be intentionally or unintentionally too sensitive.