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[–] slazer2au 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The diamonds produced using this method are minuscule, hundreds of thousands of times smaller than those grown with the HPHT method. Hence, these diamonds are far too small for jewelry applications.

Ah, there's the catch.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not a catch, majority of diamonds are used in industries and need to be small.

[–] paraphrand 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s a catch when your perspective is hoping it will impact the negatives of the jewelry industry.

[–] Almrond 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem wouldn't be fixed even then. The jewelery companies have people convinced that the only diamonds that are worth it are mined from the earth by a real human slave. Fixing that problem has nothing to do with gemstones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

companies have people convinced that the only diamonds that are worth it are mined from the earth by a real human slave

Is this still the case? I feel like I've seen "conflict free" as a selling point for (presumably labgrown) diamonds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Me too. I've also heard synthetic gemstones can have colours and structures unlike anything that can form naturally. I want one of those, so that nobody would mistake it for a mined stone.

[–] Tyfud 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Will never happen until De beers exits the stage or is forced to.

We already have incredibly easy to make and cheap diamonds that can rival and surpass any natural sized ones.

They do not sell nearly as well because De beers has convinced everyone natural diamonds are a scarce resource, while they have a monopoly on the supply, of which there is no actual scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

and surpass any natural sized ones

What's the biggest synthetic diamond we've made so far? Has anyone made diamond spectacles or windows?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're quite brittle, so probably not a window like you're thinking.

https://www.thorlabs.com/newgrouppage9.cfm?objectgroup_id=15962

10mm diameter for just over £1000.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

10mm diameter

Ah, so still not quite Cullinan-scale yet. Optical quality is probably better though.

I'm surprised diamonds aren't used more for lenses. Given its high index of refraction, it seems like an ideal material.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the optical quality seems to be the main point. I assume there's few fields where that level of precision is worth it though. I doubt we're about to see it on an iPhone any time soon.

[–] EleventhHour 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

For now. But diamonds are used for much more than simply jewelry. They have a vast number of industrial applications.

[–] slazer2au 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They do mention that. Likely have applications in industrial drilling and sandpaper

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, see my comment above. It's a reference to a Paul Simon song, "Diamonds on the soles of her shoes". While they might make the shoe soles last longer, they would be abrasive to flooring materials, and so not really practical at any price.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah thanks for the clarification. What was the point (ha!) of the shoes in the song? Surely it wasn't just scratching floors?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The song is a rich girl/ poor boy love song with some significant political commentary, made more palatable by the catchy tune. The rich girl is so wealthy she could afford to have diamonds on her shoe soles. This was released on Graceland in 1986. Diamonds were/are mined in South Africa - dug from the ground by poor South Africans. The whole story about DeBoers controlling the supply and price of diamonds may not have broken at that point. And even to this day we can't synthesize large 'jewelry' grade diamonds.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Dang, and I was thinking it was time to put 'diamonds on the soles of my shoes.'

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DrSleepless 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Keep an eye on your kidney, Sydney.

[–] Zachariah 5 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can, just very small ones

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I'm thinking it would be a bit rough on the floor boards. Paul got me interested, but it's not really practical.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

They should really start with this