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So there's a ton of countries that I've heard have had truly unaffordable housing for decades, like:

  • The UK
  • Ireland
  • The Netherlands

And I've heard of a ton of countries where the cost of houses was until recently quite affordable where it's also started getting worse:

  • Germany
  • Poland
  • Czechia
  • Hungary
  • The US
  • Australia
  • Canada
  • And I'm sure plenty others
  1. It seems to be a pan-Western bloc thing. Is the cause in all these countries the same?
  2. We've heard of success stories in cities like Vienna where much of the housing stock is municipally owned – but those cities have had it that way for decades. Would their system alleviate the current crisis if established in the aforementioned countries?
  3. What specific policies should I be demanding of our politicians to make housing affordable again? Is there any silver bullet? Has any country demonstrably managed to reverse this crisis yet?
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

China has essentially zero homeless iirc. Most people own their homes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That depends on if you consider the migrant workers living in encampments as homeless or not

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I have no idea if China has those but I can tell you that America does. I'd still rather not have humans suffering on every street corner.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340706113_Homelessness_and_the_Universal_Family_in_Chin

China has a roughly 20% migrant worker population living in notably unsanitary conditions who do not own their homes. This is a direct result of their economic policy.

They have a massive homeless population. It just looks different than in other parts of the world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I will take your word for it for now but will definitely be doing sone research on this. I should know more about china than I do right now

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is why I linked a published academic paper on the matter. You don't need to take my word for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll be reading it when I am not drunk anymore, should have mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So do most people here in Czechia. We have had capitalism for 35 years and for the first 30 house prices were stable and affordable (with no large municipal sector). Something has happened within the last 5 years and I'd like to know if it's the same cause as in the other countries and how it can be reversed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Such is the path of decommunization. Most post-soviet countries have or will experience something similar as capitalists take the housing for profit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I definitely do fear something like that happening. Still, how would you explain the 30 years under capitalism when it was working fine? Why didn't the capitalists swoop in in year 1 (or 15)?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Capitalism hadn't advanced towards late stage yet.

Your ideal time was always a transitory period. This end result is inevitable.

Even if you pass reforms now... that is only kicking the can into your children's or grandchildren faces.