this post was submitted on 03 Dec 2024
910 points (96.0% liked)
Political Memes
5573 readers
2227 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It sadly works.
Found a friend of mine who suddenly supports the Supreme Court potential ban on gender affirming care. He basically accused the "transgender movement" of going to far, and claimed that "Europe has actually been second guessing it themselves, and there are so many reports out now saying it's bad for you."
I was confused by this, so I did a little digging, just to make sure I wasn't stuck in an echo chamber.
Here's what I found: The only report claiming gender affirming care is bad is the Cass Report from the UK, which was cherry picked to hell and back, overseen by the Tories (a very Anti-Transgender party of an Anti-Transgender country), and contradicted by a more recent report from France that has no such criticism. The claims that "Europe has turned its back on the transpeople they once accepted!" was... Misleading at best.
It was a sneaky lie by omission.
When most people say "Europe" in American News Outlets they're referring to the European Union. In order to get the "Europe having second thoughts" narrative, they mostly had to count Russia and several Eastern European Arabic countries, the former which has a blanket ban and the latter consider it "Impersonation of another gender", which you guessed it is a death sentence.
The EU, which is what most News Outlets refers to when they say "Europe", is not "Second guessing transpeople", outside of Spain banning trans-athletes which they caught a lot of flack for. France and Norway seem especially Transfriendly.
I basically had to say "Oh no! 500 studies saying Gender Affirming care is necessary from Scientists or one written in crayon from a PragerU coffee boy, it's so hard to tell which ones are telling the truth!"
I wish I could say I opened his eyes, but he stuck to his guns that "Transpeople need to learn to compromise"
But when the compromise is "Stop existing, and maybe we'll let you wear panties behind closed doors every now and then.", why the hell would we do that? If anything I was convinced the trans rights movement hasn't gone far enough. We cannot accept a "How about we only kill three million jews?" style compromise from the Nazis.
I mean the whole "Starting off a presentation with Ladies and Gentlemen is basically a hate crime" wackos are still idiots, but every group has their weirdos, and ours are the twitter people, or are they the bluesky people now?