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Neither of those terms are quite interchangeable though. Everybody has low energy days, that's relatively normal. But the word spoons is a shorthand for explaining a precious, and much more finite resource, as a way to distinguish the experience for disabled people.
But it's not a vital nor precious resource. It's just tangable and limited. I think that's the disconnect.
I'm sorry, are you trying to argue that spoons aren't a vital, nor precious, resource for disabled people? Because I disagree vehemently. Please go and read Christine Miserandino's original post:
https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/
I did, and the point was about general translation.
You know what, nevermind, I'm done wasting my spoons arguing this point with people in this thread.
Surely the most mature way to take any constructive criticism.
The fact you can't respect that I ran out of spoons for arguing the point, kind of just proves my point that you don't understand the term, doesn't it?
No. Because here you are and I also don't have forks.
Here I am, after sleeping and recovering some spoons. That are precious, that I still don't want to waste on changing your mind, when you're clearly not willing to understand.
It's ok, you obviously don't want to understand either, so it will cost nothing for that part.
Do you have a chronic illness, or did you just come into this thread to argue with those that do?
I do and so do my family members. Can you admit now that you are not willing to understand a simple point without trying to lecture ad nauseam as if the minor critique was detrimental to the entire concept?
Because here's how it actually works. I'm blocking you because you're toxic, and this is for real not worth my energy.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I guess me not wanting to try to argue the point was toxic. My apologies that I called into question you having a chronic illness though. I've wasted too many spoons on arguing with people who don't about this stuff in the past.