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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The instigator of this crisis is in fact, not, seeking a solution to it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

You're right, it's not the ideal article on the subject.

[Edith to clarify: The article is factual but it doesn't give background on all the meddling that went on over the past few months since the snap election nonsense.]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I have been really curious about that, actually, but since I don't speak French, it's been hard for me to follow the post-election developments. Are you able to give a recap, or point me to a good summary somewhere?

[–] wkk 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
  • "far-right" gains lots of seats during european deputy elections
  • people shocked
  • Macron somehow figures this means people have new priorities and dissolves the general assembly
  • new elections
  • expected a swing victory for "far-right"
  • they actually lose seats
  • left coalition comes out on top, but with relative majority of seats only (<50%)
  • unexpected but welcome turn of events
  • issue: since no one has absolute majority it's difficult to vote stuff
  • budget
  • Macron wants (NEEDS) to fix the debt issue
  • they'll cut expenses in public services, mass layoffs
  • left coalition wants to find the missing money not by cutting but by taxing places where money accumulated (i.e. The Richâ„¢)
  • left lands amends in the budget plan
  • prime minister overrules the plan using "49.3" and approves the initial Fuck The People <3 Budget Planâ„¢
  • this unlocks the prime minister's ejection seat button
  • prime minister is ejected
  • Macron needs to pick yet another prime minister, hopefully this time he won't put one of his cronies to overrule the elected majority's priorities
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Long story short

  1. following the European elections, Macron used his constitutional right to call for new parliamentary elections, a risky moved that hasn't been used since 1997.

  2. European elections led to 3 similar sized block : A left wing union from with communists, green and social-democrats, a Center-right pro Macron block, and a far-right block

  3. Macron appointed former EU brexit negotiator Barnier as a prime minister, he is from a right wing party who's done a pretty low score at the election, and he bought a government with centre-right liberals and some more conservative to show the far-right that it could have been worse.

  4. The parliament struggled to vote a budget, so Barnier used the trust me bro technique, a constitutional trick which allows you to bypass a parliament vote on a law but triggers a confidence vote.

  5. The Far-right decided that the current wasn't right wing enough and vote the non confidence with the left-wing, meaning that the budget is rejected and the prime minister has to resign

Direct consequences is that France has no budget for 2025 (I assume it means that they'll re-use the 2024 budget until they vote something) and that Macron will have to appoint a new PM. With some luck French politicians will start behaving like in any democratic nation and build a coalition over a given coaltion contract rather than blaming each other on the TV

[–] Foreigner 6 points 6 days ago

With some luck French politicians will start behaving like in any democratic nation and build a coalition over a given coaltion contract rather than blaming each other on the TV

I feel we have a better chance of winning the euromillions than that happening

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I mean, it's a perfectly fine and factual article, just that I disagree with this specific title