• Officers beat pretrial detainee to death in jail’s ‘blind spot’ as punishment, feds say (archived link)
• Wisconsin DA dismisses 40 cases because of police officer credibility concerns
• Cops were told man was 'armed' with fake gun, killed him anyway, and didn't tell the public they knew the gun was fake (archived link)
• Retired Portland police officer among dozens charged in human trafficking sting (archived link)
• New Jersey police officer arrested for child pornography
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• Massachusetts police lieutenant gets 4-6 years in prison after confessing to child rapes (archived link)
• Ohio cop fired for allegedly exchanging nude images with an underage girl
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• Pennsylvania detective sergeant charged with stealing drugs from community medication collection program (archived link)
• 'I felt like my son was safe': Mother demands jail reforms in wake of inmate deaths (archived link)
• Kentucky police officer indicted after body camera video shows bloody confrontation
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Jesus you seem angry. I'm not saying all cops are good either. You seem to have this all or nothing mindset.
Yes, tons of cops do tons of bad things, but you are purposely ignoring anyone good. I'm not saying all cops are good, I'm not even saying 10% are good, I'm just not making some absolute sweeping statement. Listen, you can find articles and videos of cops savings people's lives. That's a fact. For me personally, if someone saves a person's life, that's a pretty good mark for them. It doesn't automatically make them a perfect person, but it's moving in the right direction. Have other cops needlessly ended lives, absolutely, but it doesn't mean the cops that are saving lives are automatically bad. I mean you're an American citizen right? You think it's right for the world to look at all the shitty things America has done and lay it at your feet? Call America a traitor to the world for what they've done and demonize you? No, because that would be ignorant.
And the fact that me trying to have this convo with you makes you feel the need to insult me and call me a boot licker or whatever just shows that you don't want to have a conversation. You have a belief that you've cemented and you attack anyone who questions it.
The idea, that in your mind, someone who is a genuine good person, who tries to be a cop with the best intentions automatically becomes this horrible person once they put the badge on is nonsense. You're in a black and white, us vs them, mindset. You list tons of examples of what cops have done wrong to justify hating every single one of them. This is the exact behavior used by hate groups, it's pathetic. What have you done to stop qualified immunity aside from be an Internet warrior, hrmmm?
But yeah, just shut down, name call, and be childishly sarcastic when anyone tries to have a convo with you. This is some peak close minded cult think.
Would you call a Nazi good just because they try to marginally make a system they can't change but willingly continue to participate in?
It's the same thing, stop defending class traitors. If cops were so good and necessary, why does crime not change when police departments go on strike?
Y'know, like the entire Buffalo PD resigning because all the good cops faced slight public scrutiny for, I think that one was pushing an old man over and then all the good cops walking by while he bleeds from his skull? Those good cops?
Or did you mean all the good NYPD cops who threaten to stop doing their jobs any time the public asks for accountability?
I don't understand, someone joins a shitty, abusive system, and they still want to be considered good people! It's so unfair of them! Won't anyone think of the poor poor police officers and their poor guns and poor badges and poor qualified immunity, they're just good people perpetuating a broken system, what else should they do? Try to change things for the better?
They willfully joined a system that was started as a means to arrest and return runaway slaves.... Are cops the baddies? No no, it's just a few bad apples, they're just following orders, etc. Right?
Edit: What have I done? I joined the military, learned what actual responsibility was, and stopped giving wannabe soldiers who need military grade gear to feel safe against peaceful protestors a pass because "iT's JuSt A fEw BaD aPpLeS". I don't remember the National Guard attacking rioters during the Baltimore Riots, or during the BLM protests. That was only cops, y'know, the same ones you're saying are "good people" because they have good intentions.
What intentions did the federal law enforcement officers have when they were throwing people into unmarked vans in Portland? Or randomly opening fire on peaceful protestors "out past curfew."
I'm sure they were nothing but trying to fix the broken system they are a willing part of, they clearly weren't just class traitors.
Oh, and you're asking why I haven't given any examples of good cop behavior? Two reasons: One, that's your job, I'm not defending cops, you are, so go ahead. And two, because there are no good cops, even the feel good stories are usually propaganda.
But keep defending the institution that kills, again, 1,000 Americans per year and 10,000 dogs because your fragile ego can't handle the fact that shit people are shit. Welcome to the real world?
Jesus, you're so blinded with rage.
You know a cop could join the force in a small town that isn't corrupt. Or a cop could help a best they can by joining instead of just complaining online. You jumped up Nazis because of course, but to answer you, yes. If a Nazi in WW2 saved Jewish lives I would call them a good person. They couldn't stop the war, but if they saved who they could I would admire that. Not being able to fix the whole system doesn't mean you can't do what you can to make things a little better.
You said "That was only cops, y'know, the same ones you're saying are "good people" because they have good intentions. " I never said either if those things. I said some of them can be good people and even said a lot of them are bad. Jesus, you're just reading what you want at this point, you don't even care about what's being said, you're just throwing a fit.
And I'm not asking you to provide good instances of cops doing things, I'm saying you're not even willing to acknowledge it. I can admit the institution of policing is corrupted and there are a lot of bad people, but I'm not willing to call them all bad outright without even knowing them or what they've done.
And wait, what, my fragile ego? That's just a random insult for no reason, how is this about my ego? I'm just disagreeing with you so you feel the need to insult me, I get it. You're all rage all the time, no nuance, everyone is the enemy.
What I find hilarious is that you joined the military, who kills tons of innocent people, then judge the cops for the same thing. You're the exact thing you hate.
Lighto, you win the argument by default, since Blitzo has been banned by lemmy.world admins.
I hate cops probably more than Blitzo does, but I'm less evangelical. I did find the conversation interesting, though, and thanks to both of you for staying mostly cordial.