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[–] [email protected] 115 points 2 months ago (58 children)

It's probably also good practice to assume that not all encrypted apps are created equal, too. Google's RCS messaging, for example, says "end-to-end encrypted", which sounds like it would be a direct and equal competitor to something like Signal. But Google regularly makes money off of your personal data. It does not behoove a company like Google to protect your data.

Start assuming every corporation is evil. At worst you lose some time getting educated on options.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (52 children)

End to end is end to end. Its either "the devices sign the messages with keys that never leave the the device so no 3rd party can ever compromise them" or it's not.

Signal is a more trustworthy org, but google isn't going to fuck around with this service to make money. They make their money off you by keeping you in the google ecosystem and data harvesting elsewhere.

[–] renzev 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Of course our app is end-to-end encrypted! The ends being your device and our server, that is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It’s end to end to end encrypted!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's literally what zoom said early in the pandemic.

Then all the business in the world gave them truck loads of money, the industry called them out on it, and they hired teams of cryptographers to build an actual e2ee system

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