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Benches have been removed for your inconvenience (cdn.masto.host)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you think those that are too mentally ill, violent, or antisocial deserve to keep being displaced because they can't function in current society?

Most of them, no. Probably one percent of one percent though can not be rehabilitated so displacement is about as good as you can do unless we bring forced asylums back.

I do understand the desire to keep folks from sleeping on benches, making things smelly.

You're doing the thing I was referring to by using one end of the spectrum to judge the actions of people dealing with the other end. The ones who are just "smelly aren't the reason benches get removed. It's the ones who verbally/physically/sexually assault people, leave used needles/human waste/blood, that sort of thing. The very tiny minority of homeless people who give all the others a bad rep and ruin things for everyone. It's not the business or train station or park's or wider public's responsibility to deal with that 0.1% as it essentially takes professionals, so displacement can't be looked down on as what else are they supposed to do?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

forced asylum

The current system will have these folks cycle through the justice system. A justice system that will still hold them against their will and treat them poorly anyway. For those people that need to be held (a very small amount, like you said), it will be better to hold them in a jail/prison that promotes rehabilitation and will treat them compassionately of they continue to fail to be rehabilitated. Very unlike the current jails/prisons in the United States.

what are they supposed to do?

What should they do? Don't make it the disadvantaged people's problem. Make it the problem of the people that failed these disadvantaged folks.

Put pressure on the government to fix the lack of services. (Or if they're already part of the government, the correct people in government, like the governor for state care.)

We can't keep passing the buck.

Again, I understand it is uncomfortable to fight against an unjust system. It's not pretty. But the alternative is letting down people that need support in favor of people that would as soon grind us up next.