Now after almost 3 years, Russia not only hasn't managed to take Ukraine, but has lost territory to them too. For months now Russia has still not been able to take it back!

That was a battle cry for a tankie to show up and produce a different statistic. FYI, it's usually a time capped chart that limits data in Russia's favor.

War is a dynamic phenomenon, after all. (You can usually take a specific block of time from any point and produce a favorable result by limiting which variables are used. This is why internet charts and graphs must always be verified, actually.)

[–] Buffalox 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

War is a dynamic phenomenon, after all.

Doesn't change the fact that this 3 week operation, is now a 1000+ day embarrassment for Russia. Where instead of taking Ukraine in 3 weeks, they've only managed 20% in almost 3 years, and at extreme cost of both human lives and war material. Plus they've committed a long string of war crimes.

I don't see how any tankie can turn this to look good for Russia, except flat out lying about it.

[–] NOT_RICK 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even worse, their propaganda outlets were reporting three days at the onset

[–] Buffalox 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AFAIK the estimate given to Putin was 3 weeks, 3 days was media hype, I'm not going to repeat that nonsense.