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[–] TheGrandNagus 189 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (69 children)

Americans seem get really weird with the whole ancestry thing. There appears to be a desire to look into your family history and find something "exotic", which basically seems to mean non-English - I imagine because that's perceived as the 'default' ancestry, so-to-speak.

Honestly, who the fuck cares? What difference does it make? Nationalities aren't Skyrim races. You don't get special abilities. It makes no difference whether your ancestors were British/Irish/Spanish/French/whatever.

E: This is obviously not intended as a hateful statement, people. You have to understand that the rest of the world doesn't care about this, so we're confused when we look to the US and see them take it so seriously. We're especially puzzled when Americans say "I'm Irish" because their great great great uncle bought a pint of Guiness in the 1870s. It's an alien concept to the rest of the planet.

[–] makyo 54 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

What's with the negativity from you and the other comments?

I can tell you why Americans care. Because identity matters to people. The story of the melting pot is central to the American story as a nation of immigrants (even today) and central to individual identities. Thus, there is a lot of interest in backgrounds and geneology. If you ask the average American about their heritage you're likely to get a surprising answer - so people talk about it more.

I get why it seems weird to many other cultures - if you ask the average French person (for example) their heritage they'll say 'French as far back as we can tell'.

The French person celebrates their identity through the lens of the French story, and the American does too, it's just that the American story is the immigrant story.

I hope you do actually care. I hope in this era of rising nationalism and online hate enough of us value diversity of backgrounds and ancestries.

[–] TheGrandNagus 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

I'm not being hateful about it. I'm just puzzled as to why people think it makes any difference to their lives, or why they'd be disappointed in having the "wrong" ancestry.

I see a lot of Americans obsessed with it so much that it borders on being fetish-like, particularly when it comes to people claiming to be Irish or Italian, and it's bizarre to me.

[–] makyo 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No not hateful, you're just giving off a weird vibe about it. But you're half way there actually, transform that energy into curiosity.

The two you picked especially have a real fascinating history and I'd encourage you to check it out because both of those groups had a tough time in their early immigration days. They aren't fetishising at all - those communities had to stick together because they weren't exactly welcome, and that mentality became ingrained. Over time, it was less necessary for survival so it transitioned into more of a cultural tradition.

[–] TheGrandNagus -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm aware of the history. It's still weird. You need to understand that nowhere else does this. It's strange.

[–] makyo 3 points 2 weeks ago

I understand why you'd think that because we're all inundated with American culture no matter where we are in the western world. But that's just not true. There are plenty of interesting groups who celebrate cultural identities not based on the country they live in.

A web search uncovered German-Brazilians and Italian-Argentines for me, I'm sure there are many many more.

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