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[–] Mojave 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Volodymyr Zelensky said that his country needed security guarantees from Nato and more weapons to defend itself before any talks with Russia."

NATO can guarantee security? Since when do they enforce anything with a show of muscle? Almost nothing else will stop Russia

[–] takeda 16 points 2 days ago

Europe didn't have war for 70 years thanks to NATO and EU.

The 2nd goal of NATO is to unite countries to be be powerful enough to fight an enemy, but #1 goal of NATO is to create an awareness that of somebody attacks one NATO country, they are starting war with 32 countries at once. It always was a deterrent and that's what Ukraine really wants.

[–] saltesc 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe he mentioned nations that belong to NATO and the idiot journalist—that apparently doesn't even know it's an acronym—just assumed this meant he meant NATO.

Because as everyone knows, Mr Zelenaky more than anyone, NATO cannot participate in the Ukrainian War until it extends to a NATO country coming under attack. And even then, it may not still respond if the country was attacked in retaliation to something they did first.

So, I'm putting it to poor journalism spinning an interpretation. It is The Telegraph.