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Besides your belief that there is no higher power, what are your thoughts on supernatural phenomena? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago by aLaStOr_MoOdY47 to c/atheism

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Lets take a little break from politics and have us a real atheist conversation.

Personally, I'm open to the idea of the existence of supernatural phenomena, and I believe mainstream religions are actually complicated incomplete stories full of misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and half-truths.

Basically, I think that these stories are not as simple and straightforward as they seem to be to religious people. I feel like there is a lot more to them. Concluding that all these stories are just made up or came out of nowhere is kind of hard for me.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll believe anything you tell me, including gods and magic, as long as you can present evidence appropriate to your claim. Anyone who wants me to believe what they're saying about anything divine or supernatural had better be able to back it up, or else I'm going to laugh in their face.

[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

An interesting case for you to dive into: The Skinwalker Ranch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would I be interested in alien ghost stories? Cattle mutilation and alien abduction aren't credible examples of the supernatural.

[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47 -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You're reluctant for some reason. If you don't challenge your beliefs, how do you expect to grow? There's more to it than just cattle mutilations and alien abductions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, I'm listening. Show me the evidence. Explain the supernatural to me.

[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47 -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Definition. I've already given you something to dive into. The Skinwalker Ranch. You can listen to the story on this channel. Great voice, and visuals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

If you don't have anything to offer, don't waste my time. I'm not interested in someone else's explanation, and I know the definition. I want to see how you justify the claim. I'll bet a thousand dollars cash that you can't back it up. I'm confident in making that bet because if you could, you'd be the first.

[–] argoniantradwife 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I was quite interested in Snikwalker ranch for a hot second like 2 years ago, and what I can say is: There's no real evidence of anything supernatural, most of the claims are unverifiable and made by people who wanna believe in the first place, the previous owner of the ranch claimed they made up the supernatural bits to sell it, and every popular bit of information about is coded in scary music and spooky effects on TV programmes. I'd actually like to see if you got any like, scientific articles about it, because I never went that far with my interest. Just seems like a ranch with weird radio interference on Tuesdays. I'm open to accepting the existence of supernatural stuff, but evidence wise, I've never seen anything conclusive.