this post was submitted on 29 Nov 2024
379 points (98.0% liked)

World News

39331 readers
2510 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Candace Owens, a U.S. conservative commentator, has been denied a visa to enter New Zealand for a speaking tour after being banned from Australia.

Australian officials barred her in October, citing her Holocaust denial remarks and potential to incite discord, following calls from Jewish groups.

New Zealand immigration laws prohibit entry to individuals banned from other countries.

Owens, known for controversial statements on topics like Black Lives Matter and vaccines, had planned to discuss free speech and Christianity at events in both countries. Tickets for her tour remain on sale.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"only denied by extremists"

And what happens when they are behind the bench?

[–] Rice_Daddy 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm curious about these arguments that people put forward. Pretending to be some kind of 'absolutist'. Are you really so deluded that you think these efforts to address misinformation and extremism might somehow be used by bad faith actor? Like 'we shouldn't do this, what if the bad guys are in charge?'. We all know that when they're in power they wouldn't care about the laws or would just make their own up!

Or are you batting for the fascists and autocrats and want to give them more power faster?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are levels of extremists. It's not clear "good" and "bad". Look at the US who is putting s vaccine denier in charge of health policy.

Vaccines objectively work. That is the truth. But "Truth" isn't always universally agreed upon.

Or are you batting for the fascists and autocrats and want to give them more power faster?

Don't be a dick.

[–] Rice_Daddy 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Science is a bad example. It's a field where our understanding continues to develop. Whether something has happened or not, like the Holocaust, or Russia invading Ukraine, are completely different.

'Vaccines works' can mean a lot of things, different types of vaccines, for different issues, and different side effects, and how people personally weigh side effects with the benefit.

That said, you don't stop trying to do the right thing because it might backfire, because not doing anything at all will probably baby make things worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Politicians shouldn't consider whether the laws they pass may have bad consequences later on?

[–] Rice_Daddy 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What made you think they shouldn't?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Your cavalier attitude towards not caring if laws may back-fire or not.

[–] Buffalox 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

These people are insane, so then it's obviously no longer a well functioning democracy, and fair and reasonable laws cannot be expected. It will probably be illegal to show documented actual facts about how they lied their way to power.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago

So "all is good" and "all is lost" are the only two viable options then?