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Edit: to clarify: the message in the ad is actually ironic/satirical, mocking the advice for cyclists to wear high-viz at night.

It uses the same logic but inverts the parts and responsabilities, by suggesting to motorists (not cyclists) to apply bright paint on their cars.

So this ad is not pro or against high-viz, it's against victim blaming

Cross-posted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/113544508246569296

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It's funny, but as a driver and a cyclist, the amount of times I barely saw the person on the bike, because they had no hi viz, no lights and no reflectors (and black/dark clothing), even in moderately good visibility conditions is too damn high.

It's not that big of a deal in cities, but I'd be really pushing it to ride my bike out on a 70+ kmph road, and you'd have to hold me at gunpoint to do it without any lights, because I'd be as good as dead anyway.

Of course black cars are kinda the same, except here in Poland every car is required by law to have at least position lights on at all times (yes, sunny daylight too), and it makes a world of a difference no matter the paint color.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I prefer when all people occupying the road, whether its a pedestrian, cyclist, motorcyclist, car, or horse rider be as visible as possible.

Its why I refuse to drive a gray or silver car. They blend in with the pavement at certain times in the am and pm and if it's raining really hard they disappear. In a lot of ways they are worse than black cars.

What's wrong with making sure you are visible? Why is that something to make fun of? (I'm not asking you directly, I just don't get the joke in the ad.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

also grey and silver are boring as fuck

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

:(

carefully tucks my silver hair into a hat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

on a car, not hair!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

I think any bike intended for road use should be equipped with lights

[–] Dozzi92 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd even argue (this is what the Internet is for) that gray cars in rain are the absolute worst. They just disappear without any kind of lights on. I don't know why we don't just have headlights and taillights on all the time. It's how I've driven for the past 15 years, to me it just makes sense. I'm never caught forgetting to put them on when it's raining or when it's dark, because they are always on. I like people to see me, I do not want to be involved in a collision.

[–] Emerald 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They just disappear without any kind of lights on

My area has a law where you must have lights on when raining

[–] Dozzi92 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Emerald 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The funny part is that it is actually "headlights on when wipers required", which is quite strange. When I am in heavy rain and I have a freshly rainx'ed winshield, I don't even need wipers. But I still need lights

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Here in Spain is much simpler, if it's cloudy lights go on. Anything besides a blue sky basically means lights on. Its way easier since you just always have them on and that's basically it.

[–] Dozzi92 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, that's what I want. Car manufacturers should just have them be always on, and that turning them off uses some mechanic where you have to be in park or something. I've just seen too many people who don't use them in the rain, and of course the folks who think their daytime lights are their headlights at night.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who isnt a fucking dumbass that turns off auto mode will have a vehicle that does so automatically. Sometimes rain sensors, sometimes light, sometimes just turning on the wipers, but they all have it.

Some drivers are dumbasses and refuse to use auto mode that's been around for 30 years, and those people should have their license taken away.

[–] Emerald 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My car is not even 20 years old, it does not have automatic wipers or lights. Lol. Also if someone turns them on manually, why is it bad that they don't use auto mode?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They forget, obviously.

I don't know what kind of car you have but I assume not one in north America?

[–] Emerald 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, one in North America. The USA specifically. You are tripping if you think 30 year old cars commonly feature automatic headlights

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So.... which one then? I've never seen a car without.

[–] Emerald 1 points 1 day ago

2005 Ford Focus

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We have daylight running laws here as well, but those lights are different than the regular headlights and weaker.

In driving school they taught me to just put on my regular lights all the time.

They're a lot stronger than the daylight ones and make you more visible