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So I've just been thinking about privacy, and how everyone's location can be tracked. Then I realized: What about people who have no permission to enter the country?

Like do they just decide to not have a phone, or do they still have phones and just roll the dice and hope they don't get caught?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The big thing is whether people are behaving in a manner that brings them to the attention of the government.

It’s not like you have to give your SSN to a carrier to get a phone; the government needs a reason to be tracking you.

Now, they very much could put in a warrant for all phones crossing the border at unusual times/locations. But someone who snuck in with family and is working cash-only jobs to get by is unlikely to get tagged by the government unless they’re going somewhere or doing something the government is already watching.

[–] leadore 2 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not like you have to give your SSN to a carrier to get a phone

Actually it is like that, if you are getting any kind of deal where you're paying off the phone with your service plan and/or commit to a term contract. They use it to run a credit check on you. Most companies where you're committing to a length of service do this. It happened to me when I was going to get some kind of cable or internet service one time, where you got x number of months free if you promised to keep the plan for two years. They asked for my SSN and I refused, so they wouldn't complete the transaction. That's how I found out about why they want your SSN.