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[–] pennomi 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Heaven forbid life expectancy factors be TWO things!

Obviously easy access to healthcare AND a non corn syrup based diet are important factors in determining longevity.

Edit: Does anyone know what this category of logical fallacy is called? Basically the fallacy where a person incorrectly tries to attribute an outcome to a single cause.

[–] actually 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In East Texas the further one is away from Houston the less their life expectancy. We all eat the same stuff, I think. The difference maxes out to 5 years average less per person, near Louisiana, but if you look at the actuary stats it’s a straight line correlation between medical center distance and how long we live, on average

This honestly is repeated for many states in the USA. The metro areas have same life expectancies as Europe and Japan, but it’s balanced out by rural lack of access and fewer preventative cares.

[–] spankmonkey 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is a lot easier to survive a heart attack and stroke if you can reach a hospital or comparable medical service in a reasonable amount of time.

[–] actually 9 points 1 month ago

Yes, that too, but the way it was explained to me is that high blood pressure, diabetes and easy to diagnose diseases which make up the majority. All solved by regular checkups

[–] firadin 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look up food deserts and reconsider whether urban and rural citizens in America have the same diet.

[–] actually 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Food deserts do exist in many places, but majority of people in my area need vehicle access to get any groceries, or work. One usually does not walk down to the local dollar general.

And with vehicles come access to real grocery stores

[–] firadin 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Food deserts in the south are worse than just "need to drive to a grocery store." Often the only nearby (short drive) is a store akin to Dollar General with very little or no fresh produce. If the closest place you can get decent quality fruit and veggies is an hour drive, you're going to end up on a diet of corn syrup.

[–] actually 1 points 1 month ago

And that is definitely an issue .

Here is another take, I think the mortality patterns would have differences per county based on how many towns and food stores there are. But I don’t see it, for example Lufkin would have a higher life expectancy because so much of that county is a metro area, but it does not stand out against the other counties

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Causal oversimplification is a specific kind of false dilemma where conjoint possibilities are ignored.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Reductionism? Oversimplification?

Einstein supposedly said "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yes but life expectancy has been rising in those countries despite worse diets and obesity rising. So it seems access to healthcare is a stronger factor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It is not two things, it is several things. Life expectancy in the US is lower mainly because of one thing though.