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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I'm good with it to be honest. One port that can do it all. Not proprietary.

The longer we keep including legacy ports the longer they'll stick around on peripheral devices

Manufactures won't change until forced. The transition period might be a bit painful, but worth it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.

Also, USB-C can only "do it all" on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard. If you're lucky, the capabilities are printed right on the device or in the manual. If you're unlucky you'll have to figure it out yourself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You’re usually safe with Apple’s Type-C port supporting a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Didn't they have issues with previous MBPs where they'd charge slower on one side than on the other without apple acknowledging it?

But that aside Apple is pretty good ad supporting mostly everything. Other manufacturers are way worse in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.

I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.

Also, USB-C can only "do it all" on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard.

It's definitely not as good as it should've been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.

That's why I want my computer to have both.

It's definitely not as good as it should've been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.

Until it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The big issue in my eyes is that they cut down on ports period. Yeah sure you can do it all. Here's 2 ports for your trouble. There's not a meaningful amount of them after. My current personal laptop has 2 USB a, one type c, HDMI and microsd. My work laptop is the same, but flipped usba and c. That's fine for a lot of people, including myself. But then you look at other machines like the xps 13 Plus which has like 2. Or a MacBook air. Which also has 2 but at least you get a headphone jack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

When a port is extremely high bandwidth, the number of them stops mattering much. I’m plugging everything into a dock via a single cable anyways, the rest go largely unused. We used to need a dozen ports because each one could only handle a single task and all were relatively low bandwidth.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

For sure, 3 on one side and 2 on the other minimum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Almost everything I have has a USB A or a DE-9 plug. I don't have a single peripheral that plugs into a USB C port. I don't want to deal with dongles and I'm certainly not going to replace my perfectly good hardware.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Eh, it's been a standard for nearly a decade now. We'd still be on DVI with this attitude.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

You don't have to replace anything, but you will have to buy a cheap USB-C -> USB-A dongle

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

USB-C is fairly open, and USB4 can do most things Thunderbolt 3/4 can do, but there are exceptions like daisy-chaining. Thunderbolt 5 is also out now, and it has no open counterpart. And Thunderbolt is very much proprietary, requiring licensing and certification from Intel.