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Thom Hartmann

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[–] WijFij 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't completely understand what he's saying... The votes were being transmitted through Starlink which was creating these bullet ballots before transmitting back down to the counters? Is there really evidence that Star Link was anywhere near the votes?

[–] falidorn 22 points 1 week ago

That’s the problem here. It’s all speculation. There is an anomaly in the amount of bullet ballots cast, per this gentleman. We don’t know if that’s the case for the whole country (conveniently doesn’t say). We don’t know if this has happened in previous elections (we just take his word for it as he glosses over it). He’s not a network IT person (more data analysis) so doesn’t truly understand the plausibility of hijacking actual ballots.

I’d need to see a lot more analysis from other sources before saying some guy on talk radio has a reason to question the integrity of ballots.

[–] Alteon 16 points 1 week ago

I've been keeping up with a lot of it. The Starlink thing is likely a red herring. Spoonamoore, whose kicked this thing off, thinks that the tabulators were likely hacked before election day somehow.

So, the bullet ballots are the oddest thing. In every single election, you'll get a super small amount of bullet ballots, like 0.3% of them. And there's typically a margin in which the likelihood of these things occur. You can tell there are bullet ballots when there's more votes for a President than the down ballot candidates (i.e. other state elections), essentially signifying that somebody went and voted for just the President and no other races. They're finding something like 7-12% bullet ballots in the swing states and ONLY the swing states, which is significant...it's a statistical anomaly.

So...questions start to pile up. How did so many pollsters get it wrong in only the swing states? Why were there SO MANY bomb threats in only swing state ballot counting stations? Why were there SO MANY bullet ballots in only this election? Why did Democrats win nearly every other downballot race in these elections, but somehow Trump had a massive win? Why are all of these "weird things" only happening in swing states?

For reference on the bullet votes, a graph showing the bullet ballots percents:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Plus, even if it went through Starlink's network you'd think the results would have been cryptographically signed like all https transactions are. How would they have managed to modify the results without the private key? I really don't want to stoop to the election denying level based on one guy's armchair speculation. Absolutely voting machines should have security audits from third parties, but to my knowledge that already happens, and the only thing making him doubt is that the results don't sound real to him (which is more of a sign that like me, he's probably living in a bubble)