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[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 days ago (15 children)

I have read the history of Nazi era labor camps. I do not believe every outcome that occurred in Nazi Germany will occur here. Since neither Trump, nor RFK, is in charge yet, you and I can only conjecture about what they will do once they are in charge. I prefer to restrict my criticism to their stated plans instead of these hyperbolic statements, but you do you.

I guess under the same reasoning that this will be Nazi Germany, we will also be doing a land invasion of Mexico and/or Canada for more "living space". If you don't believe that to be true, then the best I can say is we will have a partial overlap with Nazi Germany. Assuming you do not believe there will be a land-invasion of our closest neighboring countries, can you explain what parts of Nazi Germany I can expect and what I cannot?

So far, I understand your reasoning to be that Trump and Co. have identical goals to Nazi Germany. I am curious how this meshes with Trump's broad support of Israel, which would probably be in conflict with the antisemitism of Nazi Germany.

[–] Paranoidfactoid 4 points 5 days ago (14 children)

They've told us what they plan to do. Believe them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Sorry, let me ask more directly. The aims of Trump are exactly the same as Hitler? If no, why are we talking about Nazi-era death camps?

The difference between you and I is that I am reading the actual words from these fellows (who I don't like very much anyway) to try to determine their stated goals and you seem to just be saying "TRUMP = NAZI".

We all benefit from having an accurate picture of the country next year. You seem to say it's Nazi Germany. Is it, or is it not?

[–] Paranoidfactoid 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They said they plan to make large scale detention camps to hold and deport up to 18 to 20 million undocumented immigrants. This is exactly what the Nazis said they would do to their target groups as well. It was only after deporting such a large mass of people became logistically impossible that they resorted to mass death camps. That is, if you believe their Nuremberg testimony.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They said they plan to make large scale detention camps to hold and deport up to 18 to 20 million undocumented immigrants.

The original thread was talking about users of Adderall and other prescription drugs. Are you saying that the plan will be to send Adderall / prescription drug users and undocumented immigrants to the same labor camps?

[–] Paranoidfactoid 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm saying they're expanding the list of who they wish to detain. Just like the Nazis did.

I don't believe your questions are asked in good faith.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

RFK's proposed program is a state-funded "wellness farm" to enable users of prescription drugs and Adderall to rehabilitate. This is entirely distinct from Trump's plan to detain and then deport undocumented immigrants. Notably, one group would consist of American citizens and one would not.

If your level of paranoia regarding Trump is such that you believe he will put his own citizenry in labor camps, then nothing I can say or do will convince you otherwise, as it does not appear to be backed in evidence.

I am annoyed that you classify this as bad faith, as I am attempting to address and criticize his stated plans and goals instead of catastrophizing about Nazi Germany.

Again, if you are saying Trump behaves identically to Nazi Germany, then are we going to see a land invasion of Mexico/Canada? Will Trump make the democratic party illegal? That's what Hitler would have done.

Will he also turn on Israel instead of offering aid? Isn't antisemitism a core tenet of Nazi Germany? I find the comparison rather flawed.

[–] Paranoidfactoid 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're either obsequious or gullible to the point of delusion. They won't just target their enemies, one day it will be you too. For they must have enemies to target, so when they run out even servile loyalists like you will wind up on their lists.

We have nothing further to discuss.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Paranoidfactoid 1 points 4 days ago

No. Reality. This is no slippery slope.

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