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submitted 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/politicalmemes
 

i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (22 children)

Real Talk, I'm getting real tired of everyone from the vaguely right of center to the farthest reaches of the left getting involved in this shit slinging blame game.

I legit don't care anymore who you voted for (edit: so long as it wasn't Trump I mean. But even then, time to start your redemption arc if you did). We are past the election and now all share the same immediate issues.

Folks who abstained from voting (or voted 3rd party) because you couldn't stomach the lesser of two evils, good news, that choice is gone. You can stop parroting the idea that anyone who voted Blue did so "in support of genocide". It should be clear by now those who voted Blue really were just doing their best in a bad situation, they are not your enemies.

Folks who voted Blue because you believe supporting the lesser evil is in service of the greater good. Good news, that burden is also gone. You can stop parroting the idea that someone who can't stomach voting for people who would play politics with genocide is really just a tankie or a bot. Not every one is willing to play game theory with people's lives, that doesn't mean they are your enemies.

Anyone who truly wants to push for solidarity and human rights for all is an ally of mine. And I propose we bury the hatchet, preferably in the objectives of fascists, before its too late.

[–] Dead_or_Alive 13 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

I think it is important to point out the failings of others. Otherwise they may not connect the dots and learn from their mistakes.

Sometimes a mistake is innocent, say you forgot to zip up your fly. It’s important to know you forgot to do so as it could be very socially embarrassing.

Sometimes one could accidentally cut someone off in traffic because they didn’t see them. A good honk notifies them of their mistake and will hopefully drive home the fact that they probably need to pay better attention to traffic.

Pointing out that abstaining and or choosing not to vote enabled the election of the greater of two evils is equally important.

Rock on OP. Never let them forget!

[–] inv3r510n 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (7 children)

Then point at the FAILED DEMOCRAT PARTY instead of voters. When biden announced he was running for re-election their own internal polling showed he’d lose. They don’t fucking care, it’s all theatre to them. Their corporate owners are happy and the donations continue to flow in from foolish rubes like you who will gladly vote blue no matter who right off a fucking cliff.

Kamala Harris spent a billion dollars and still fucking lost. But yeah go blame voters that will ensure the same thing happens in 2028 should we be so lucky to pretend to play democracy again. And it is pretend. Because if you don’t vote correctly you’re the worst person to ever exist.

[–] Katana314 -3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I’ve been repeating this thought exercise because people seem to have a hard time delineating when blame goes the other way.

Bob is standing next to a bomb, and a fuse is sparking down. Jill, on the other side of a fence and reliant on Bob, lifts a huge very expensive sign for Bob to stamp out the fuse. Bob does not stamp out the fuse, bomb goes off.

Who is at fault; Bob for not stamping out the fuse, or Jill for not getting a high-amp bullhorn to inform Bob he should stamp the fuse?

Feel free to vary the analogy, but the question would extend to: When does it become Bob’s fault that he didn’t take action?

[–] inv3r510n 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It remains the democrats fault for:

• gaslighting the public about inflation

• gaslighting the public about not one but two new wars including a genocide!

• refusing to run a small D democratic primary that they didn’t rig since checks notes 2004 (they tried to rig 2008 for Hillary but failed because Obama was so charismatic they couldn’t stop him)

• refusing to run a primary at all in 2024, despite biden promising when elected in 2020 to be a one term president, and his own polling showed he’d lose in 2024

• last minute Hail Mary of replacing biden with Harris despite not a single vote being cast for her

• no platform other than “we’re not trump! Elect an anti-democratic party to save democracy! Trumps the next hitler!!!!”

• didn’t bother campaigning in swing states just like Hillary in 2016

Gee I wonder why they lost the election. Couldn’t be that they continuously gaslight the public. Couldn’t be that they didn’t hold a primary (sorry but RFK Jr vanity run is not a primary). No, no. Voters just voted wrong!

But don’t worry! We have to save dEmOcRaCy! Let’s just roll over and hand the power over to trump because he won fair and square and optics and politeness are more important than saving the country! You see, the democrat party doesn’t actually give a shit, if they were serious, they would have their own January 6th. They’re not serious. They’re gonna fundraise off of it. Just like roe v Wade!

[–] Katana314 -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

no platform other than “we’re not trump! Elect an anti-democratic party to save democracy! Trumps the next hitler!!!

Yeah? Why do you need a platform beyond this?

It was a competent former prosecutor vs a serially lying violent felon.

[–] inv3r510n 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

AND YOU LOST!

With the exception of the Jan 6 investigation (now over with no charges for the orange buffoon) the rest of the investigations looked like political warfare and the public discounted them accordingly.

WILL YOU LIBS EVER FUCKING LEARN?!?!?!

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