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The U.S. has approved Ukraine’s use of long-range ATACMS missiles to strike inside Russia, drawing sharp criticism from Russian officials, who warn of serious escalation and even invoke fears of World War III.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov condemned the move as a “new spiral of tension,” while Vladimir Putin has yet to comment.

Putin previously warned such actions could be seen as NATO’s direct involvement in the war.

As Biden’s term ends, speculation rises about how Trump’s more cautious stance on Ukraine aid might influence Moscow’s next steps.

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[–] cheese_greater 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sometimes constraints like Biden's remaining time in power are a good thing so necessarily bold and irreversible moves can be made to resolve the situation

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The situation won’t be resolved until Russia has truly been broken or Ukraine has nukes. They will not stop until they have what they want at any cost or they perceive Ukraine as a credible threat.

Long range missiles are great, but Ukraine needs to really break them or they will just keep going.

[–] cheese_greater 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't the US just give Ukraine the nukes, didn't Israel steal their nuclear program from the US anyway (like physically stole shit or something)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Could you think about what you are suggesting please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He thought about it. It's a great idea cos russia does not have working nukes. I know everybody gonna come tell me the braindead thing about "how it only takes one nuke", but russia has nothing that works. They don't even have working delivery vehicles. Their last sarmat test blew up on the launcher.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I guess I’ve got no option but to yield to your superior knowledge of Russia nuclear weaponry and its operational readiness.

I will also have to concede that your plan to manage the consequences of breaching the Non Proliferation Treaties, although not included in your comment, are surely water tight .

And for these reasons, the risks of transferring nuclear weapons to a corrupt oligarchy like Ukraine I’m sure have been considered and mitigated.

Because like you said, he thought about it .

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Did you get your "ehrmagherd kurrupt ukrainian oligarchy" talking points from the garbage russians? This is a rhetorical question cos I know that's where you got it from. You've done less thinking of your own and are just spouting what you heard some propaganda outlet say, cos you just repeat stuff you hear.

Anyway, I rate giving Ukraine nukes a 15/10 idea. I think Ukraine should nuke russia. And you should watch.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You are desperately in need of an argument on this, aren’t you ?

Start here

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023

Get an adult to help you with the numbers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

There's no need for an argument. I'm right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

How is Ukraine a corrupt oligarchy? Seems to be as much as every other country in the world, probably less than the USA and Russia

(Edit: Using the definition that it's just a government controlled by a small group of people)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you mean “how is it ?”

Just google it mate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

It says the oligarchs were losing power for the last decade, especially after the start of the war and some "anti-oligarch" laws...