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What do you think would happen it the Democratic Party in the US made a hard pivot to policies championed by Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by cheese_greater to c/[email protected]

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EDIT: I should clarify, by Jill Stein, I mean what her party's official platform and policies are, as reflected by her statements in interviews

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[–] zxqwas -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why would that persuade someone living in a swing state that sometimes vote republican and sometimes democrat to vote D?

I think you over estimate how many hard lefts don't bother voting at all because both parties are too similar.

Going more left will cost more votes than they would gain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think you underestimate how many don't vote because neither party offers them something worth voting for. A huge percentage of US Americans don't vote, yet polling for progressive policies always polls better.

By going progressive you aren't convincing the rare swing voter, but the massive number of disaffected voters. These aren't far-left, but disenfranchised from the entire system.

[–] zxqwas 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But every vote from the center is a vote you deny the other party.

So extreme left/right policies have to be twice as popular to be worth it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

For starters, there are only right and extreme right policies among the Dems and Reps. Secondly, there is a massive pool of disaffected voters that would vote for a lukewarm progressive like Bernie, who was projected to even steal Trump voters, because progressive policy is popular. The Dems ran rightward and lost their voters in general.

[–] cheese_greater 1 points 4 days ago

How are centrists and "moderates" that pliable if the alternative is escalatingly radicalilizing (the right)?