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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (17 children)

I didn't understand this so I looked it up.

https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Maiar

Pretty cool.

[–] pressanykeynow 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (16 children)

So there were five godlike beings sent to fight Sauron. Only one of them did his job.

I need to reword it.

You are the big cool powerful god. One of your servants, a minor much less powerful god does bad things to the world. So you send five your other servants just as powerful as the bad one to deal with him.

A lot of time passes. Three of those spend their time chilling. One joins the bad one. The last one turns out too weak. Who solves the problem? Four hobbits.

You really should reconsider your politics after that.

[–] WillBalls 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, the istari were diminished Maiar who weren't allowed to use their full power, and Sauron was a full Maia with no qualms about flexing his true strength.

Had Manwë been given the license to send just Eönwë, then Sauron would've been rekt in a year tops

[–] pressanykeynow 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why were their powers limited?

[–] DrDominate 7 points 3 months ago

It's complicated but basically the gods learned that flexing their full strength caused cataclysmic events. Not ideal. But in doing so they got rid of Sauron's daddy, so it wasn't all gloom. But it did mean they weren't keen on the idea of going rampage mode to deal with a lesser threat.

[–] WillBalls 5 points 3 months ago

The lore reason is essentially that defeating Sauron was mankind's coming-of-age story (the age of elves was ending, and mankind was set to take over control of middle earth), and having a bunch of maiar come in and wreck Sauron wouldn't teach men to stand up for what's right. Instead, Eru told Manwë to send the istari to guide men and elves to defeat Sauron on their own

The "real" reason is that it wouldn't be a very good story if Manwë just sniped Sauron from the hidden West with magic

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