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Over 100 German legislators have proposed banning the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, citing its aggressive and combative actions against the constitution.

The proposal, which requires support from the Bundestag, the upper house, or the federal government, aims to demonstrate the AfD’s extreme right-wing activities.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Best of luck, guys.

I know that doing things that can eliminate a political opposition are incredibly ethically sensitive, but it's demonstrably the correct choice here. I just wish that it wasn't a choice that had to be made. How are these far right parties getting so many votes? Where have we failed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Where have we failed?

You know how Europe is mostly ethnically homogeneous? Well thanks to European and American escapades into the Middle East they're becoming less ethnically homogeneous, and because of that xenophobic right wing rhetoric works on them a lot more than Americans. Add the post-covid economy and other legitimate issues where those immigrants can be scapegoated and Europeans welcome far right parties with open arms, because unlike Americans they're not inoculated against these ideas.

Someone might point to the result of this election, to which I say there's a reason people are angry at the DNC and it's because they could've won if they were actually trying. It's completely different from Europe where young people are shifting right.

Anyway what I wanna say is that this outcome was basically inevitable because in a parliamentary system like in most European countries the government will be too moderate to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I didn't know that Italians and french had the same language, traditions and skin color. I had assumed that there had been riots in the streets when Italy joined the ECSC in 1951.

You're totally right, but I hate the whole "Sweden/Europe was ethnically homogeneous" line that centrists say.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

The idea of a “whiteness” that Italians are outside of is largely an American one, originating from the invention of “whiteness” as a construct to rationalise racial slavery and the subsequent waves of immigration from (largely southern) Italy. (The Irish were classified as non-white for much the same reason, even though Ireland was not known for its melanin-rich complexions.)

The Italians did have a different language and traditions than the French, but they also until recently had different language and traditions than other Italians. (Italy was not a country until 1860 or so, and “Italian” as a language came into existence when Garibaldi chose the Tuscan dialect (because Dante had spoken it) and decreed it to be the new national language of the newly united nation.)

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