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[–] PugJesus 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For one they did not, at all, care for the results of the votes. Like in 2016 they just used Superdelegates to invalidate all the races Clinton had lost.

They did no such thing. Fuck's sake. We lost by some 10% points, against Hillary fucking Clinton. This idea that the better candidate will automatically be the more popular one is some utter fucking delusion I keep seeing from the left.

I voted for Bernie twice. I would vote for him again in a heartbeat, age and all. That's not the same as peddling "The DNC STOLE the primary from us!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At the very, very least, they are guilty of lopsided financial support and advertising dollars behind each candidate. The rest is largely supposition, though certainly COULD be true. Sometimes it's easier to accept that than that the other voters are dumb. I have no idea which is actually true

[–] PugJesus 0 points 2 days ago

I mean, even if you look at third party polling in the 2016 primaries, you get largely the same results. The DNC was unfair to Bernie - but at the same time, it is the primary voters who failed him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

West Virginia, where Clinton is the literal devil even amongst Democrats? Where the Obama administration was reviled, even amongst Democrats, and Clinton was still heavily associated with the Obama administration?

Do you... do you think West Virginia is more socialist inclined? More progressive inclined?

I spent most of my life growing up next door to West Virginia. West Virginia was a literal, not figurative, stone's throw from my hometown. I know a lot of West Virginians.

WV going for Bernie in the 2016 primary doesn't say what you think it does.

[–] SquirtleHermit 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay Mr. Smarty-pants, explain why I'm so sad that Bernie lost twice then!

.... 😭

[–] PugJesus 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because few things are as crushing as knowing your fellow voters are dumb as shit.

[–] SquirtleHermit 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stupid fellow voters... Stupid democracy... Stupid freedom...

Thank goodness we don't have to worry about that nonsense anymore...

[–] PugJesus 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stupid voters can only fuck us once per election. Stupid authoritarian rulers can fuck us every day of our lives, until the regime itself collapses.

[–] SquirtleHermit 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stone cold fact Bernie would have won in 2016 and we wouldn't be on this stupid timeline

[–] PugJesus 2 points 2 days ago

Quite probably, yeah. But to win the general, you either have to win a primary or come out with massive support outside of the two parties.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wets Virginia where Bernie won every single county and yet was overruled via Superdelegates and given to Clinton.

https://ballotpedia.org/Superdelegates_from_West_Virginia,_2016

[–] PugJesus -5 points 2 days ago

"Overruled via Superdelegates and given to Clinton"

Oh, okay, so you don't know what Superdelegates are. Unsurprising.