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Was Fedora always so unstable? (self.linux)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by noro_lim_asfaloth to c/[email protected]

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I was on Ubuntu for a year. No major issues, although I used the interim releases, which are supposed to be less solid than LTS. Then, a couple of months ago, I decided to switch to Fedora, just out of curiosity. Many people stated how Fedora is rock solid, Fedora is the new Ubuntu, etc. First some rpmfussion updates broke mesa, then the ostree update broke Flatpak, and recently there was a broken kernel 6.3.11 update that affected some AMD users. A few days ago, I updated my kernel to 6.3.12, and I got frequent freezes on boot. Other users are also reporting such issues. So now I boot with an older kernel. Which is not optimal. There is no LTS kernel on Fedora, the old kernel version doesn't receive security updates. Was it always like that, or it's an unusual bad phase.

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[–] Fredol 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You want an honest answer? Fedora was never that great to begin with and went down quite a bit in quality since the whole patent debacle. I had to switch distros when Mesa was constantly breaking. Also, untested kernel updates would remove HDMI audio (and despite a fix being available they waited a crazy long time to push it) among many other things

Tumbleweed is just plain better.

[–] Kekin 8 points 1 year ago

I think it's worth noting that Tumbleweed also has the Mesa/codecs situation, where if you want the codecs you have to enable the Packman repo and install mesa from there, and when there's an update for mesa you have to wait for the update on Packman repo, otherwise you get some conflicts when trying to update. Though packman usually updates quick enough so it's usually not an issue but it can be a bit weird the first time you see it.

Aside from that yeah, Tumbleweed is great. Though i'm currently running Fedora Kinoite and overall I've been happy with it, but I would probably go back to Tumbleweed if something were to happen.

[–] DigDoug 4 points 1 year ago

Fedora was never that great to begin with

I always just found it to be really, really, ridiculously slow. I swear DNF might rival Windows in terms of update slowness and it seems to permeate the whole system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does Tumbleweed compare to Fedora for you? The Mesa situation is also the driving force behind me looking for alternatives.

[–] Fredol 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No issues at all, packman (the rpmfusion equivalent) is much more in sync with official repos and so I never had to wait until mesa caught up or anything. Also, Tumbleweed is feature packed and offers a much better experience than Fedora.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Nice to hear someone say the truth. People keep recommending it but I had nothing but trouble. My girlfriend tried it also and had ton of weird bugs, like couldn't copy paste from Firefox and other super weird things going on.

She installed Pop OS and now she loves Linux. Never any issues whatsoever.