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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

She's not saying Harris needed a few more weeks. She's saying Biden never should have gone for a second term, and they should have had a real primary process to choose a better candate. Which was a mistake I pointed out when Biden announced his second run.

[–] Rapidcreek -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Any Democrat can run in a primary. Hell, Democrats even let Independants run. There was nothing stopping Pelosi or her chosen candidate to begin a run. What did she want Biden to do? Write speeches for them? These campaign runs start years in advance, does Nancy expect Joe to know what she's thinking in the future?

[–] bostonbananarama 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is naive. A Democrat isn't going to challenge a sitting president for the nomination. Pelosi is absolutely right about this. Biden never should have run for reelection.

[–] Rapidcreek -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So you want a free primary, but but nobody will challenge the incumbent? Seems like Pelosi wanted him to resign before he took the oath.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Biden never should have run a second time at all. His running scared away any other candates. If he clearly said he wouldn't run for a second term, they could've had a full open primary with a dozen candates or more.

As it was, they did everything they could to discourage a real, full primary process.

Even after he was forced out, he could've not handed he's entire campaign war chest and staff to Harris. And instead had a contested convention where candates lobbied attendees for their votes. Like used be done a century ago. Then given all his campaign resources to that nominee.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Supposedly he couldn't give the resources to anyone else as they were gathered for a biden/Harris campaign.

Since Harris was part of that there was no problems with her taking it over

Probably some kind of fraud otherwise. Collecting funds for a different purpose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no it doesn't harris raised almost a billion in 3 days. that billion was not committed to biden. not even 200 million of it was before he dropped out. trump won on 400 million.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure how any that matters to any campaign finance rules that might prevent Biden from giving his war chest to another candate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You dont realize how the majority of money was raised after he dropped out and that trump managed to win with half of the money is relevant to the discussion of 'only harris could access biden's campaign funds.' nonsense reasoning the dnc and media gave for why we absolutely must go with harris as the candidate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh! Now I get it. You're talking about something I wasn't. It's true none of that has anything to do with the rules specifically, like I thought. But instead, you want to talk about some broader point we weren't thinking or talking about. Okay. Yes your right. It matters to the larger situation, beyond the scope of our immediate discussion. Thank you for explaining.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Np. As for the campaign finance laws im also fairly certain those excuses were a load of bunk too. I dont believe anything prevented biden campaign from returning them to the donors and letting them reallocate.