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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can affect everyone differently but not coming out and getting things done can lead to terrible mental health and depression, leading to suicide. Transitionning is the only way we know to supress those symptoms.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That isn't entirely true. Transitioning is very recent idea. Being trans and transitioning is also intimately tied to pharma capital complex.

There were many ways of being queer and trans which have been erased over time. Simply consider the native American stuff and also Indian motions of hijra.

Though not this precise point a good text to read : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testo_Junkie

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably because those people didn't have a choice due to the limitations of medicine.

Same as how treatment for depression was "suck it up or abuse drugs/alcohol" and the treatment for serious trauma was "die".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Again depression is a modern conception which is a symptom of a society that has erased notions such as melancholia and mourning.

Reference: https://books.google.co.in/books/about/The_New_Black.html?id=8nL823M9X64C&redir_esc=y

The point is that these new ideas pretend that they are all neutral and they have arrived at the truth. In the process the constitue their own subjects who are interpellated in these frames. The people who believe and fall for this new discourses are produced by these new technological and scientific advances. It isn't a truth waiting to be grasped out there.

The point is that alternative routes of making meaning of these phenonemon have been erased and other alternative pathways are blocked by suggesting that this is it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hey, germs are a modern conception, too, so I guess it would be fine with you if surgeons stopped washing their hands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is no analogical reasoning between germ theory and psychiatry. Psychiatry chooses to individualize a problem in however coded manners at the expense of the social. I am honestly quite astounded by the response that transitioning is the only way to be trans nowadays. This echoes the overall codification of queer behaviour the world over where the normative western queer body language now dominated. If you don't behave or are like them you are not queer.

[–] feedum_sneedson -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alienated not only from the products of our labour, but increasingly the original tool of our labour; that is, our bodies. That's the likely cause of the ideological cart overtaking the materialist horse when it comes to gender. At least, in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You put it well. Thank you for that clarification.

[–] Historical_General -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How about we decide to do the sensible thing and take advantage of modern medicine??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Not against modern medicine. While you are at it please also look into the pharma complex which oversells modern medicine.

[–] Historical_General 0 points 1 year ago

Of course, but that's the case for medicine in the US across the board. It's not so much a problem elsewhere.