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[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Trump getting the popular vote is a problem that needs to be understood. The majority of America voted for a moron that looks as if he smears feces on his face after getting out of bed - among worse flaws.

But what I find most painful is that this asshole wasn't locked up for J6. Him even being considered as a candidate is blatantly against the constitution. The fact democrats went along with this long enough to actually have the orange shitler win is insane. He is simply and plainly not eligible to be President of the United States.

Edit: Ironically, this is the same clown that spent years nagging Obama for his birth certificate.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what's getting me. If he won via electoral college or couping, I'd be angry and ready to do the work to pull the country out of this mess and end Trumpism once and for all. But instead, he won the popular vote. People in the United States saw a wannabe-autocrat who was specifically called a fascist by his own officers who admitted to being a dictator "on day one" among so many other things. After seeing that, a majority of people either affirmatively supported the fascist candidate by voting for him, or they are tolerant enough of it to sit at home and not vote or vote for a third party knowing the outcome. And that really just makes me lose faith in my country and the people, and so I'm just sad knowing that this country actively chose this outcome.

What's worse is that I really don't feel a strong desire to try to change anything since it'll just fall on deaf ears at best. More to the point, I don't even want to hear "their side" or "their reasons" for why they voted the way they did because no matter the rationale they give, it will come down to them being comfortable with oppression of minorities and autocracy. I always want to believe the best of people, but after today, I really can't anymore.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

In my view you're arriving at conclusions of how to act and think a result of being biased by the popular vote. The popular vote has no influence over the existing laws that are being broken nor the existing rights that are being violated. Furthermore, ask yourself, when has the other party ever given a single fuck about the popular vote? So, why do you?

Edit: Made some edits to clarify. Essentially, I'm making the argument that laws shouldn't be broken and rights shouldn't be ignored just because a majority is OK with doing so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

The popular vote has been the moral victory of the Democrat party since 2000.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It’s not a hard problem to understand.

The Democratic Party is a right wing party already as it is. Center-right at best. And they are trying to court the fascist vote.

They brought the Cheneys on stage for fucks sake.

Problem is that Trump does fascism better than they ever could. So they are not getting those votes. But they are alienating the left vote and those people won’t show up.

In addition to that the demonization of men by the online left is pushing the newer generations right.

A random man is not more dangerous than a random bear.

Pushing shit like this in the face of impressionable young people does harm and makes sure they know you do not have their back. So why should they have yours ?