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[–] Carighan 61 points 2 months ago (60 children)

This post is a really good example of how the disinformation campaign actually worked on people and created this believe. Fascinating. And terrifying.

[–] Maalus 2 points 2 months ago (15 children)

What exactly is wrong with what they said? At the end of the day, democrats support the genocide too. You can't say "republicans will do it harder hurr durr" and expect people to vote for the one that still is for genocide, but is a little bit shy about it. The end result is the same - the Palestinian state will never exist and the people will be killed. There is no difference if it happens over a year or over three. So that issue is brushed aside, or is the cause of not voting at all.

Then you have the absolutely idiotic move to the right. Saying "the border wall is a good idea" as a democrat? Come the F on.

[–] Carighan 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

Yes, now you mentioned two issues.

Want me to add a few more, and you give your takes on those?

Let's start with a few easy ones:

  • Bodily autonomy of women.
  • Gerrymandering
  • Climate change
  • Land grabbing
  • Corporate tax evasion

You make the exact same mistake, too. You let people direct you towards a singular, specific, feels-driven point instead of trying to give an informed vote. Any large-scale politics is always going to be a hybrid vote. You won't have any even city-wide, nevermind state-wide candidate of any party (over here, I know it's only two for you folks :P ) where you agree with all of their stances.
But if you let someone train you to ignore the vast majority of stances in favor of just 1-2, I hopefully don't need to explain to you how you have effectively turned yourself into a voting-drone. You can be trivially led by anger and feeling, not by rational thought and informed vote. And especially on large-scale politics, the problem is not with immediate feels, in particular if people start putting those in power that want ot actively dismantle their own checks and balances. Because then even if they later decide differently, they cannot remove them any more. It's now too late for that.

It says a lot that everybody commenting is so hyperfocused on Gaza. This is exactly what the right wing wanted. And I blame voters for so readily - and greedily - walking into this "trap" (for lack of a better word, not my primary language).

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent 10 points 2 months ago

Bodily autonomy of women.

The same bodily autonomy Democrats failed to enshrine in law at any point in the decades following the initial Roe v. Wade decision? Or the bodily autonomy that Harris and the dems wouldn't have had the votes to pass anyway even had they won? Or do you mean the bodily autonomy that Biden has done nothing meaningful with since he took office four years ago?

Gerrymandering

What specific policy platform did Harris put forward and advertise to the American people regarding gerrymandering? I don't recall anything specific beyond "we need to stop it." Ok, how? How do you plan to do that when, once again, you won't have majorities in both houses, and SCOTUS is corrupt and you/Biden refuse to do anything about that, either, like pack the court?

Climate change

She reversed her policy on fracking a couple weeks into her campaign, might make voters think you can't trust her and her commitment to the climate crisis, which Biden has shown to also not be doing great on.

Land grabbing

I'm assuming this is related to housing? Yeah, Harris said she wanted to build 3 million new homes and offer first time homebuyers down payment assistance. This doesn't address all of the corporate consolidation of housing, and it doesn't prevent these corporate entities from gobbling up huge amounts of these new homes.

Corporate tax evasion

What has Biden done in regards to this? Have the tax breaks put in place by Trump been reversed? No? Because they have to be undone by Congress? Cool, so what's Harris's plan if she doesn't control both houses of Congress, send me 8 emails a day for the next 4 years begging me for money while not raising the minimum wage in any meaningful way?

I voted Harris, to be clear, but her policies were centrist at best, and that's why she lost. Regardless of what the stats and polls show, Americans don't feel better off than four years ago. Americans want change, and if it's not going to be progress, then I guess it'll be regress. And the Dems have no one to blame but themselves.

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