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The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!

In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.

In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.

In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!

In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.

In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.

And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.

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[–] the_tab_key 52 points 1 month ago (47 children)

My view: yes, the Dems could have some better, but they still put up a legitimately good candidate. The GOP put up a pile of orange dog shit... And the dog shit won. How is it the Dems fault that more than half the population enjoys dog shit?

For the Dems to win, they need to run a fucking perfect campaign and the GOP doesn't. Why? Because media fragmentation and propaganda. The bulk of the population doesn't want to be informed. How is that the Dems fault? How did the Democratic party reach those voters that don't give a shit about truth?

This isn't a failure of the Democratic party, this is a failure of our society.

[–] twistypencil 17 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The left needs to stop making the perfect be the enemy of the good, or we will never get anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is what we're doing right now getting anywhere?

[–] twistypencil 2 points 1 month ago

It felt like we were taking a step out of the swamp and were about to make some more progress as a country, now we are taking ten years back

[–] givesomefucks 12 points 1 month ago

You can try to change tens of millions of potential voters minds so they vote for worse candidates than they want...

Or we can convince the double digit number of wealthy and connected people running the dnc that what they keep shoving down our throats isn't what voters want.

Which do you think is easier?

And as a bonus:

Which one results in a better America?

[–] Passerby6497 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good fucking luck with that. Too many people view their spotless moral record as being more important than outcomes or improving lives (/not actively making things worse).

Misanthropy is the only real outcome to this sort of behavior.

[–] inv3r510n 2 points 1 month ago

“How could the Germans allowed the Holocaust to happen?!”

Look in the mirror, fool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think anyone is asking for perfection just basic human decency, but I guess that's like asking for a thousand talking unicorns in politics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Uh... Harris wasn't good. Harris was fucking shit. Perfect will always be the enemy of fucking shit.

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