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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Welp, I'm going to skip work tomorrow and figure out how to get citizenship elsewhere. Fuck the US.

[–] Dasus 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How much do you make? I'm up for some light marriage fraud if you'd like a Finnish citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hahaha. Love it. Happily married though. But in all transparency I make ~$400k in the US, but similar prospects overseas probably pay closer to $80k from what I've heard.

I don't mind a pay cut. But my research this far seems to indicate that settling down somewhere else permanently is difficult.

[–] idiomaddict 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I’m an American living permanently in Germany. It is difficult, especially keeping on top of paperwork. It’s not impossible though, and even easier if you’re in tech (I’m assuming by the fivefold pay increase). If you learn the language of the place you’re trying to stay, it’s much easier.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just be aware that Germany is turning more and more right-wing, too...

[–] idiomaddict 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m well aware, but it’s a good sight better off than the US for now. Citizenship in an EU country entitles you to freedom of travel within the EU and residency in any EU country, so once I get that, my husband and I will be able to look at other countries (though really only the Nordic countries and Ireland are better options, that we can see, and those are all pretty expensive comparatively), but even just in Germany, the difference is wild. The institutions here are much stronger, as is the sense of solidarity, so even with the (terrifying) success of the AFD and BSW/FW peeling off votes from the left and more mainstream parties, there’s a very long way to go before Germany is as far to the right as the US. Plus, you have a right to healthcare and much stronger workers’ rights (and rent is way cheaper outside of major cities, I’m talking €400/$440 for a two bedroom).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, you're correct.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Cool, I'll look into it, thanks!

[–] drmoose 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can basically live indefinitely in the SEA with US passport (Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia). Find a in a nice liberal bubble with loads of other foreigners as long as you can make 2,000 usd/mo you'll be quite comfy and free here.

I've long given up on being part of the core society and embraced the life in a bubble. It's pretty awesome! Feel free to message me if you have any questions :)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish I were in a position to do this, but between being married and having a cat, dog, and horses...constant moving just doesn't work.

I'll leave my job and work at what amounts to a US mini mart. IDGAF. I'm just sick of this country.

[–] drmoose 5 points 1 month ago

I understand and wishing you strength with this 🙏

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I'm fortunate enough to also have EU citizenship. Will be booking tickets for me and the fam shortly. America is not the place for us.