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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Since we want the genocide to end before all Palestinians are dead it is not useful to demand that Harris calls the genocide a genocide

Fucking liberalism in a nutshell.

[–] brad_troika 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

So you're looking at a criticism of liberalism, from the left of liberalism. Namely the socialist left, I am assuming. Socialists can be very critical of liberals, as liberalism is a part of the establishment, and has a long history of caving to right wing framing of issues (since the right wing is also (largely) liberalism, albeit "classical liberal." In this case critical of the "its not practical" preconception that gives ground (literally) to the perpetuators of this genocide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it's utility. The idea that we can achieve our goals despite not currently having leftists and socialists in power. Not wanting to get your hands dirty isn't even a political position.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No idea how you plan to achieve your goals when your first step is Holocaust denial.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will wait until she gets elected, and then if she continues to refuse to call it a genocide, then I will hold her accountable then.

But first, the existence of Palestine as contingent on her winning. Like literally.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 4 points 1 day ago

I will hold her accountable then

By... what mechanism?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago

Genocide and war aren't mutually exclusive. The Holocaust happened during WWII.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As opposed to? Conservatism? How do you expect that to be different? Because in terms of president, those are your two options right now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

As opposed to?

Actual leftism. Liberalism is a Conservative movement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How do you expect that to be different?

State level electoral reform to replace first past the post voting. Introduce competition into the voting system.