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[–] UsernameHere 68 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (28 children)

We aren’t consuming batteries anywhere near the rate we consume oil and coal. Hydrogen even less than batteries.

So the amount of ships needed would still be a fraction of what we use now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (27 children)

not now, but if hydrogen were to be used as an energy source/storage, then it'd be used plenty. same with batteries

[–] InverseParallax 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

We can make hydrogen everywhere, we can't 'make oil'.

[–] grandkaiser 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We absolutely can 'make oil'. Been doing it since world war II. Synthetic oil is extremely common.

[–] InverseParallax 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, but also, that's not really efficient or effective for burning.

[–] grandkaiser 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] InverseParallax 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not disagreeing, but if the energy is surplus, might as well make hydrogen, at least we don't end up with pollution.

[–] grandkaiser 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh certainly. Power storage is a real problem, especially with up-down renewables. I just didn't understand why you were saying oil can't be produced but hydrogen can. Synthesizing oil for power storage is a terrible idea 😄

[–] roguetrick 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Same for hydrogen really. The only case where it really matters is flight, which requires energy densities that will only ever be achieved by hydrocarbons or maybe hydrogen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

arguably, compressing natural gas into LNG is fucking stupid, but apparently the market rates work out, so it's economically viable. And here we are compressing a gas into a liquid just to ship it over the ocean lol.

market economies are just funny.

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