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French pupil’s father on trial for spreading lies that led to teacher’s Islamist beheading (www.theguardian.com)

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In October 2020, Samuel Paty, a French teacher, was murdered following a false accusation by a 13-year-old student who claimed he’d shown anti-Muslim bias. The girl had made up the story to cover the fact she had been suspended from school for bad behaviour.

In reality, Paty’s lesson on free speech included optional viewing of Charlie Hebdo cartoons, but he hadn’t excluded anyone. The student’s story triggered a social media campaign led by her father, who, along with others, is now on trial for inciting hatred and connections to Paty’s attacker, an 18-year-old radicalized Chechen.

The school will be named the Samuel Paty School from next year.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (14 children)

It wouldn't really matter, there would be another reason for hate.

[–] 2xar 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

Organized religion is a really effective way and tool for brainwashing. Of course there are many other tools as well, but religion is probably the best one. That's why it's so popular.

Just like with guns. If you control and ban firerarms, there are still going to be some murders. But much-much less, because you take away the easiest way of commiting one.

[–] erev 2 points 1 month ago (11 children)

I'm of the opinion that a lot of gun control is ineffective, especially given what guns are supposed to mean. Yes places like Australia have been extremely successful in removing guns, but also look at their policing system and governmental overreach which is honestly quite terrible. I'm of the opinion that the most effective gun control is changing the culture surrounding guns. Bring back (optional) shooting classes in schools, teach kids (and adults) gun safety and actual useful knowledge about firearms. Regulate the access, storage, and use of ammunition. Change the culture from people thinking they'll be John Wick once they get their glock to people who actually understand that firearms are tools that can be used as weapons, and that they require time, effort, training, and a lot of responsibility to use safely. The cat is out of the bag in the US; guns aren't going away. Acting like we can remove them is silly, but we can change the perception around them.

I also think we need similar movements for a lot of things, like cars.

[–] 2xar 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My post was actually about religion and I only used gun control as a theoretical comparison.

However, it seems funny to me that you start by stating that 'gun control is ineffective', and then proceed to describe gun control in great detail and praise it.