I believe the objection is not to Snoop for his gang affiliation, but rather to the dance specifically which is being claimed as a more overt gang symbol, sort of like if they added the blood hand sign.

Of course I don't think this is even remotely an issue of concern for most of the reasons others have already commented on this post (it's a pop culture thing now, essentially), but I do think it's worth acknowledging the distinction between person and symbol here to be able to have honest discussion of the topic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean I think I understand the argument for your distinction. I don't play either games, I just watched VFX artists reaction and saw Snoop Dogg in it so I was wondering why it's such a big deal with Tencent. As he does seem to "dance" in CoD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdhPvXhXoUM.

I may take slight issue with your last statement. To be clear, I'm not trying to have a "dishonest discussion", I genuinely don't understand the distinction and there isn't really an article or anything here for me to clarify.

Thanks for your reply on it though it does clarify a bit more to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I may take slight issue with your last statement. To be clear, I’m not trying to have a “dishonest discussion”, I genuinely don’t understand the distinction and there isn’t really an article or anything here for me to clarify.

I apologize, I sincerely wasn't trying to imply you were being willfully dishonest or disingenuous, I was just trying to offer the correction to ensure clarity. I promise, I intended no offense and did not mean to imply anything about your character. I hope this clears that up and am legitimately sorry if you felt wronged.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

lol, it's alright, it's cold communication on the Internet. I also genuinely thank you for both replies!

[–] makeshiftreaper 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yes but a big difference is Call of Duty is an M rated video game whereas Fortnite is rated T. Fortnite doesn't feature blood, death, or swearing. Does it matter that the same kids probably play both? That's for the parents to decide

[–] ABCDE 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Of course Fortnite features death, we aren't showering other players with love.

[–] ladicius 7 points 1 month ago

Elimination.

Death is such a harsh word.

[–] makeshiftreaper 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Epic's official language for the game never features death. Characters are eliminated, you can meet the god of the underworld, but no character ever actually dies. Apparently the ESRB says it's ok

[–] ABCDE 1 points 1 month ago

The language doesn't matter, you are still reducing people's health by shooting them, until their health reaches 0 and they cease to exist. Thus, it is death.

[–] Zangoose 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The point of the game is to shoot people with actual guns until you're the only person (or team) left. Is the word "kill" really where ESRB draws the line?? (not that I think fortnite should be rated R)

[–] makeshiftreaper 2 points 1 month ago

I imagine Epic cares less about what the ESRB thinks and more about what the CCP thinks, seeing as Tencent has a major stake in Epic. China is generally anti-death in games

[–] P00ptart 1 points 1 month ago

Personally, I can't wait for XXX rated fortnight. /s