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I can’t wait for all the Apple haters to absolutely lose their shit over such an inconsequential thing.
It reminds me of the Apple mouse situation
I’m not an apple hater, I have a Mac mini. However, our power goes out fairly regularly in the winter, and it’ll get old having to get the thing out of the back of my desk at start it again pretty bloody quickly, it’s an obviously daft place to put it.
Terminal: sudo systemsetup -setrestartpowerfailure on
That’s the most useful thing anyone’s said so far, thanks. My current mini is hard enough to get at, as it’s under the back of the desk, so I’ve used this, as even though the power button is in a vaguely accessible place, there computer isn’t. Why would I want it taking up room on the top that could be used for synths I can’t play, and coffee I haven’t drunk?!
You can power it on using the keyboard. There’s a power button there.
Is the keyboard not bluetooth anymore? The computer would have to be on to connect to a bluetooth device. If they still had wired keyboards on the other hand...
Ah, if I used a Mac keyboard then I’d probably have known that. I generally don’t really like Mac peripherals, I’ve got a full size mechanical keyboard and a thumb wheel mouse. I get that it’s not an insurmountable problem, but there’s only one face out of the six that you can absolutely guarantee isn’t going to be immediately accessible, so why put the only button on the whole machine on that face, as opposed to next to all the I/Os?
Can you also use that button for hard reboots? Because I use the power button for that with some regularity.
Then it sounds like your problem isn’t where the button is, it’s that you have to keep pressing it for hard reboot. Sounds like you have a software issue that needs resolving.
Oh just solve all the software problems in the world so this need never arises. I’ll get right on that.
Once again, it not Apple’s fault that your computer keeps freezing.
If you put a fraction of the effort into fixing it that you do into whining about things that are your own fault, you’ve had it solved already.
You’re adorable.
And you’re a crybaby. Crybabies are not adorable.
Set your energy saver preferences in System Settings to automatically restart the computer after a power failure.
Do you not already have to reach behind your current Mini to turn it on in the instance the power goes out?
Now instead of reaching around, you just would have to reach to basically the same area and press a button underneath. Unless you have a bunch of junk on top of the computer, it's going to take the same amount of effort.
It looks like the foot/base bit isn’t tall enough to get a finger to the button without lifting the thing up. That seems daft to me. You’re having to move the whole unit about to push a button
It's in a weird spot, but it's also 1.5lbs. so I don't feel like it'll be too much effort to slip a finger under there.
That’s what she said!
Mine is rotated sideways so the button is on the corner nearest me. I care more about good access to the cables than I care about the ooh aesthetics of looking at the smooth front. Bottom of the fucking device is not what I call good access.
You could just use the new one upside down, and mash that unobstructed power button to your heart’s content. You’ll have the same great access to the ports too!
Unfortunately that screws up the air flow for heat dissipation, which is an integral part of the case design. Otherwise I’d totally just do that.
Oh interesting! I hadn’t considered that. How does that happen?
Apple thinks that loud fans are a bad user experience, and I can’t fault them on that. So they design around convection as much as possible: hot air rises and leaves the case, cool air enters from below and the case geometry and plastics guide it to the areas that need it most, just by their static shape. That carefully crafted path for the air to follow is designed around the computer being right side up and it doesn’t work the same if the thing is inverted.
Apple fanboy here. This will prevent me from upgrading from my M2 Pro Mini. I'll likely end up buying a Studio at some point if they don't come out with an iMac Pro.
It's genuinely one of the dumbest things Apple has done. And that list is growing with nearly every product they release.
You’re refusing to upgrade because of the location of a single button that you’ll hardly ever use.
Don’t pretend that’s reasonable.
What’s unreasonable is Apple’s design philosophy.
I don’t want to have to unbuild my desktop and unplug everything from my computer just to turn it back on. I don’t even know how I would use this computer in my setup. Because Apple didn’t want to expose a power button. Or because they chose to cut corners.
@oxjox @EleventhHour Mac OS will power down the Mac without ever touching the power button. We’re not animals.
And how does it turn itself on?
I actually have to press this all the time when my mini freezes or there has been a power failure. My mini has quite a few cables plugged into it and a stack of drives on top. So yeah lifting it up to press a button is decidedly inconvenient and inelegant. It’s not killing anyone’s babies but we’re talking about product design here. Inconvenient and inelegant are 100% fair game.
As I said, in another comment, you should focus on what is causing the freezing, not where a button is.
“Don’t hold it like that.” :E
Maybe you should cry about it some more. Everyone loves a big crybaby.
Maybe you should cry about getting rude to a total stranger over such a trivial thing, because this makes you an asshole, and no one wants to be an asshole.
You the one throwing tantrums because of a button.
And you’re hallucinating that I’m unreasonable for pointing out that it’s your problem— that’s some strong delusion you got there, crazy.
Keep whining and crying for another day or two. I’m sure Tim Cook himself will come wipe your tears away while completely redesigning the computer just for crybabies like you.
lol