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Cable companies, advertising firms, and newspapers are asking courts to block a federal "click-to-cancel" rule that would force businesses to make it easier for consumers to cancel services. Lawsuits were filed yesterday, about a week after the Federal Trade Commission approved a rule that "requires sellers to provide consumers with simple cancellation mechanisms to immediately halt all recurring charges."

The 5th Circuit is generally regarded as the nation's most conservative, but the 6th Circuit also has a majority of judges appointed by Republican presidents. When identical lawsuits are filed in multiple circuits, the Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation randomly selects a court to handle the case.

The NCTA cable lobby group, which represents companies like Comcast and Charter, have complained about the rule's impact on their ability to talk customers out of canceling. NCTA CEO Michael Powell claimed during a January 2024 hearing that "a consumer may easily misunderstand the consequences of canceling and it may be imperative that they learn about better options" and that the rule's disclosure and consent requirements raise "First Amendment issues."

"Too often, businesses make people jump through endless hoops just to cancel a subscription," FTC Chair Lina Khan said. "The FTC's rule will end these tricks and traps, saving Americans time and money. Nobody should be stuck paying for a service they no longer want."

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Do gyms next.

Oh, and can we also extend this to banks? Sometimes closing a bank account or credit card is like pulling teeth (have to call between 9-5 EST, must navigate stupid phone menu first, then you need to listen to and agree to a disclosure agreement, etc. If I want to cancel, I should be able clear the account and cancel.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

My gym required me to go the location I signed up and cancel in person lul. I just told them I don't live in the country anymore and I'm calling from abroad, they can either cancel or get charge backed. They canceled quick.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I though that applies all kinds of subscriptions. No?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hopefully, but many gyms don't have a website, or if they do, no way to manage subscriptions there. I doubt they'd force companies to create a website just for this, they would just require cancelling to be as easy as signing up (that often requires signing a contract and whatnot).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

If you can sign up on website, you cancel on website. If you sign up in person, you cancel in person. At least I believes the new rule is like this. It will be very weird for FTC only make this applicable to certain subscriptions, not universally applied.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think a bank should be more complex. If you have all sorts of auto drafts, withdraws, checks, etc. you'll want to make sure you got all of those.

It should absolutely be simpler but I don't mind an extra check for banks where all your money is held.

Services like gyms and Netflix, they don't have any excuse. My life will not be as adversely affected as cancelling a bank account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'd be okay with a rule, like "zero balance and no outgoing transfers," with a popup that says "any pending checks will be bounced and the bill sent to you" and other various policies. But there really shouldn't be any need to call in or visit a branch.