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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform...not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

Yeah, it sucks that progress is so slow, and yeah, it sucks that some things have gone backwards. But there has been a huge amount of progress in the past however-many years. We went from "don't ask, don't tell" to having a Catholic president openly support gay marriage in a relatively short time.

Using Harris' Glock anecdote as evidence the party is moving to the right is just lazy editorializing IMHO. Almost as lazy as just asserting that the party is moving to the left because of the issues that you decided illustrate the left-right difference...

[–] Anticorp 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform...not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

You forgot that the black woman is also the sitting vice president.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

the only thing lazy here is parroting democrats who took credit for things they didn't do

Affordable Care Act

democrats walked back on medicare for all reforms ensuring that the aca will cease to function.

LGBTQ rights,

the democrats gave us don't ask, don't tell; doma; and 10450. the gays became accepted through portrayals in tv and movies; not because of democrats. the closest thing that could be misconstrued as lgbt right is the defense of marriage act which did nothing but give gay marriage bigots legal protections since the supreme court invalidated doma 8 years before.

marijuana reform…

nothing but lip service for the last 20 years

not to mention a Black man was president

a member of the ruling class

Black woman is the party nominee.

acab and a prosecutor who put many innocent people behind bars and then fought to keep them there once it became clear that they were innocent to just to save face.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform…not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

Oh do lgbt people have more rights now? Oh fuck, I'll let my trans refugee friends know.

[–] mashbooq 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The fact that your trans refugee friends continue to suffer is deplorable, but does not mean lgbt don't have more rights now. You're employing the same fallacy that anti-vaxxers use when they say it's pointless to get a vaccine when it doesn't 100% guarantee protection from the illness. Things are better for some people and still desperately need to improve for many others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

How does the early Roberts court being oddly chill about gay stuff represent the dems doing anything about anything nationally? The rights have not been driven by the DNC, they've been driven by culture (largely Queer Eye and Modern Family, which is why every two bit Disney+ writer thinks they're MLK these days), the court, which was mostly republican appointees, and a deep neo liberalism combined with gay male couples on average being the highest earning couples. I will remind you, Obama ran against gay marriage in the 2008 primary, part of why I voted for?... I think... Chris fucking Dodd or something? [Cringe] I'm in a state where your vote doesn't matter because it's too late, so I don't even remember. Obama had it sewn up failing the superdelegate revolt Schumer already Littlefingered Hillary on in the end anyway. But at any rate, I literally voted against Obama in the primary for being anti-gay in 2008, he shifted because the culture shifted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

The fact that your trans refugee friends continue to suffer is deplorable, but does not mean lgbt don’t have more rights now.

Trans people are experiencing low key genocide but we also have more rights now?

Things are better for some people and still desperately need to improve for many others.

Things are desperately worse for some people and have improved slightly for others.

Genocide of trans people > gay marriage on the impact on the queer community