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A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris' lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein's candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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[–] spongebue 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Cool. Am I supposed to do that for every cause I believe in or just the ones you say I should?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Literally just target the root cause of the problems, capitalism. All these problems don't exist in a vacuum.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Am I supposed to do that for every cause I believe in or just the ones you say I should?"

Are you suggesting you don't believe in RCV?

[–] spongebue 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I absolutely do think RCV should be used! Or at least runoff voting or SOMETHING other than FPTP. But the other commenter was suggesting that because I'm in favor of it, and because I pointed out the potential consequence of voting third party under FPTP, I must prove my allegiance (or something) by starting a movement. As if I can't simply have an opinion without dedicating my life to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, I ask because the implications of your previous posts in this thread seem to be that you think third party supporters should just vote Democrat and work to change the voting process to RCV at the ground level but you don't want to do it yourself. Then once they suggest you work on it...

“Am I supposed to do that for every cause I believe in or just the ones you say I should?”

so I asked if you believed in RCV, and anyways... There's this famous quote that says "If you aren't acting on your beliefs, then they probably don't exist." -maybe you don't subscribe to that but my experience voting for the Democrat party is that they like a lot of things that are nice ideas, but in reality they don't ever intend to act on them as if they believe in those ideas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Just the ones you believe to be such a great problem that you're recommending people vote for your preferences out of fear.