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[–] Regrettable_incident 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm gonna try to work though your comment in the order you wrote it. I agree with the first bit. About China and Russia taking the piss.. Though I'm not sure about China, they might play the long game. I think Taiwan would be tricky in lots of ways. I think China won't move on Taiwan until the rest of the world is looking elsewhere. I don't think Russia will try to nuke Europe or Ukraine in the next few years. But I could be wrong, Russia isn't something I'd want to bet on either way. They're certainly snidey and aggressive. Yeah, Israel and Iran is a fuckin dangerous hotspot. Don't like that at all. North Korea, I dunno I would have said a year ago that they all gob and no knob, but I don't like how they getting snuggly with Russia. NK soldiers are going to Ukraine if they not already there. Hopefully India and Pakistan can chill the fuck out about Kashmir. But I don't know how close to boiling point they are. Yeah, I'm not American but the impression I get from social media and mates there is that you're about right, a whole proportion of the population is kinda fucky. And another trump presidency could be extremely harmful. And trump is a symptom of a problem with America, he could croak tomorrow and the danger would remain - because of that third of the USA population you referred to.

Plus there's non-state actors to worry about.

[–] Olhonestjim 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Honestly, I think a lot of this will cool off in a big way when he croaks, even him in prison would help. Just him losing will be a great thing. And I don't believe for a second that MAGA will ever find anybody else who can pull their strings so well. They don't have the skill, the popularity, or the back-assward charisma. Plus they're all a bunch of sociopaths in it for themselves. Their cooperation is a matter only of convenience. They're constantly backstabbing and they cannot change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There is one though. Maybe 2. Abbot is not liked enough. But Desantis will check all the boxes. He threw his hat in the race when he said he would pardon all of Trump's charges if became president... Knowing the president cannot pardon state charges. Likely meaning he supports Project 2025 in the that federal courts can force state charges into federal courts so the president can pardon them. Being that he is the only governor that I have ever known to create election police, and since he has used them to knock on peoples doors to intimidate people for signing petitions that go against his wishes... It would be hard to put much past him.

There are people watching him use their taxes to undermine their voting privileges, and supporting it.

[–] Olhonestjim 1 points 6 days ago

I'm not saying it'll all go away. But Trump losing twice is a devastating blow. It demonstrates their lack of support. They put everything behind that idiot, and it shows. Anyone else they try to get behind will never get the same cult following. They'll never be able to unite behind just one person for a while because they're all a bunch of backstabbers. It won't go away, but it should cool off.

[–] Regrettable_incident 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah I dunno. Fascism is kinda a cultural problem, it won't go away just cos the leaders go away. The leaders are the ones with the money, they can find a front. Someone obedient and Hollywood famous would be ideal for them. Trump has shown them that it's doable. It's not just a problem in America, the right is everywhere. I feel like the right is less vulnerable to sectarianism than the left and not just cos they're dumber