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While some contractors dismiss the plan as political rhetoric, many say they can’t afford to lose more people from an aging, immigrant-dependent workforce still short of nearly 400,000 people.

Both presidential candidates promise to build more homes. One promises to deport hundreds of thousands of people who build them.

Former President Donald Trump's pledge to "launch the largest deportation operation in the history of our country" would hamstring construction firms already facing labor shortages and push record home prices higher, say industry leaders, contractors and economists.

"It would be detrimental to the construction industry and our labor supply and exacerbate our housing affordability problems," said Jim Tobin, CEO of the National Association of Home Builders. The trade group considers foreign-born workers, regardless of legal status, "a vital and flexible source of labor" to builders, estimating they fill 30% of trade jobs like carpentry, plastering, masonry and electrical roles.

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[–] someguy3 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Umm you don't have to take back your citizens? Are you sure?

I read a great legal comment once about how revoking citizenship sounds cool but is really bad for pretty much exactly this reason. You're left in this weird legal limbo with no country to go to (in that case to face criminal legal process).

[–] Regrettable_incident 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Here in the UK there have been a few cases of people of people who scampered off to join Isis etc who have had their citizenship removed and are unable to return to the country. I'm not a law-knower but I think this is pretty legally iffy, it certainly happens though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am 90% sure that was only people with dual citizenship

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most likely. I don't think you're allowed to knowingly make a person stateless.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

You're also not allowed to stage a coup after losing an election, but they did that anyway.

[–] someguy3 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well did they have dual citizenship? That's different than illegal immigrants who don't have dual.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It does seem to be debatable in one case - specifically Shamima Begum, at the time she was stripped of citizenship she was apparently entitled to Bangladesh citizenship through her parents (hence why the home secretary felt it was possible) however Bangladesh have said she was never actually a citizen, she's never been to Bangladesh and they have no intention of giving her Bangladesh citizenship. The courts of appeal in the UK have sided with the former home secretary, however she does appear to be effectively stateless.

In general though, it is understood that a person's citizenship in the UK cannot be stripped unless they are dual citizens.